Yup I agree with you Axil although I am no expert on these matters I also don't 
know of anyway they could be generated from the protons. I will be interested 
if someone has an explanation for that. 
Just to expand on the strange quark pair generation idea: 

This is why I was wondering that if sufficient energy is applied if a strange 
anti strange quark pair can be manifested. If so quarks do not exist in 
isolation so they would normally need to be contained in a meson. Unlike Pion 0 
which contain + and  - up quarks or + and - down quarks I do not see such a 
meson for just + and - Strange quarks. (Does any one know if one exists)?
There are a few other Mesons however might be applicable. These are the eta 
meson, the eta prime meson, the short K 0 and the long K 0. All these Mesons 
are neutral and are their own anti particle. All these Mesons contain strange 
mixed up combination of + and - pairs of quarks the eta contain Up, Down and 
Strange quarks, the short and long K0 contain Down and Strange quarks. I'm not 
exactly what they mean in physical terms. The eta and eta prime Mesons are 
heavier than the Kaons and have very short half lives. The short kaon also has 
a short half life. The long Kaon however has a longer half life of 51 ns.
(The strange combinations of quarks in eta and K0 mesons can be found in the 
Meson list in this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mesons)
Since K0 short and Long are their own anti particle I wonder if they can be 
generated individually at lower energy than required for + - Meson pairs i.e 
497 MeV for K0 long rather than 996 MeV for +/- Kaon pairs. 
I should say that if this process is to work either it would need to be 
contained with in the nuclei. For particles the mass of Kaons this implies 
quite heavy Nuclei otherwise the energy would exceed the nucleus binding 
energy, for +/- K pairs it would imply nuclei heavier than Antimony are 
required (perhaps Pt if available would full fill this) for a single K 0 to 
form this would imply a nucleus of heavier than Nickel. I suppose one could 
imagine a resonant or entangled process where the energy was raised and 
distributed across several nuclei, thereby liberating Kaons from all the nuclei 
at the same time.
If heavy nucleons are available in Holmlids experiment this could lead to a 
test of the idea by removing elements heavier than Nickel if we stopped seeing 
Kaons (and maybe only see pions onwards), it could demonstrate that maybe this 
process was in action.
HOWEVER:
*** If I understand correctly there are no sufficiently heavy elements 
available in Holmlids experiment for Kaons to form this way? If I remember 
right there are no elements heavier than Nickel listed? The catalyst I think 
only contains Potassium, Iron and Oxygen. Is the is correct? If so it implies 
another process must take place. ***
I think in the current consensus this leaves effectively two possibilities: 
1. Concurrent Nucleon disintegration or annihilation with the production of 
particles also including strange quarks, if so an explanation is needed as to 
how down quarks can change to strange quarks for example. 
2. Axil's SPP Analogue black hole Hadron evaporation. It will be amazing if it 
can work that way, i wonder if there is a particular absolute proof way to 
observe that , such as actually observing an form SPP and seeing Kaons come 
directly as a result of it? I suppose we will have to wait for new high tech 
equipment to see that.
But maybe there is another mechanism too. (Hopefully not involving any Gorillas 
;) )
It is interesting that this test it may give us a window on CP violation too

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:42:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

I don't understand how strange and antistrange quarks can come from protons. 
There would need to be a quark reformatting process involved that can turn 
matter into different matter and antimatter types instantly. It is easier to 
accept that light energy from the laser is turned into matter and antimatter, 
especially since the color of the light changes the nature of the matter 
produced. Said in another way, different light makes different matter.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Stephen Cooke <stephen_coo...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:
Could generation of +/- s quark pairs be the trigger for nucleon 
disintegration. Could each pair with an up quark to form kaons and force the 
disintegration of the nucleons from which the up quark comes? Each s quark has 
a rest mass of 100MeV. I'm not sure if there is a meson containing an s quark 
pair however. Unless it is in the form of K- long or K- short also about 497 
MeV that seem to contain a strange balanced mixture of + and - down and strange 
quarks. I'm not knowledgable enough of a nuclear physics to know if this is 
something to consider, but it seems intersting.
Sent from my iPhone
On 26 Oct 2015, at 08:03, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

K−, negatively charged (containing a strange quark and an up antiquark) has 
mass 493.667±0.013 MeV and mean lifetime (1.2384±0.0024)×10−8 s.K+ 
(antiparticle of above) positively charged (containing an up quark and a 
strange antiquark) must (by CPT invariance) have mass and lifetime equal to 
that of K−. 
The mass difference is 0.032±0.090 MeV, consistent with zero. The difference in 
lifetime is (0.11±0.09)×10−8 s. What's weird is that two different quarks types 
are produced out of nothing. You just don't find strange quarks in ordinary 
matter. 

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
in physical cosmology, baryogenesis is the generic term for the hypothetical 
physical processes that produced an asymmetry(imbalance) between baryons and 
antibaryons produced in the very early universe. The baryonic matter that 
remains today, following the baryonic-antibaryonic matter annihilation, makes 
up the universe.

LENR could be responsible for the past and ongoing production of matter in the 
universe in violation of CPT and that negative matter (antibaryons) is being 
sent back in time. 
We see excess electrons pop into existence in LENR reactions. Could LENR be the 
GOD reaction? In point of fact, Holmlid is producing electrons from nothing in 
his experiment. Don't get excited, we are just talking here.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
CPT THEOREM
C(harge) -P(arity=reflection) -T(ime reversal) INVARIANCE is a property of any 
quantum field
theory in Flat space times which respects: (i) Locality, (ii) Unitarity and 
(iii) Lorentz Symmetry.

Holmlid is producing neutral K mesons. This particle demonstrates CP violation,
The discovery of CP violation in 1964 in the decays of neutral kaons resulted 
in the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1980 for its discoverers James Croninand Val 
Fitch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP_violation

Who can say why LENR produces neutral K mesons? 









                                          

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