Jack,
thanks for the links.
The calibration curves seem to indicate that the temperature
difference is significantly smaller then the temperature difference
which occurs during the experimental run so my interpretation is still
valid.

Harry

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Harry,
> Here is an animated chart of the calibrations.
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxxJkjesxe4kZ295dXF0cTVLSW8/view
>
> It doesn't appear that it was calibrated empty, but rather had an alumina
> rod inserted.  It's not completely clear to me what they did, but they did
> do 4 calibrations it appears.
> http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/home/mfmp-blog/515-glowstick-5-2
>
> Jack
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:29 AM H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jack,
>>
>> Okay that would explain it. Were the active and null sides both
>> calibrated empty?
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Harry,
>> >
>> > I can see where you would think that based on the active side being
>> > lower
>> > than null to start and later higher.  However, there was already the
>> > differential with the active side reading lower than the null side even
>> > during the calibration.  Also, chemistry effects in these types of
>> > experiments are fairly clear when they happen and usually don't last
>> > more
>> > than 30 mins (certainly less than 1 hour).  I base that on numerous
>> > experiments I have conducted, and the chemistry effects are seen at the
>> > temperatures where you expect them to occur.
>> >
>> > Were I to imagine a scenario where the excess heat was not real in this
>> > case, it would go like the following: at lower temperature, the heating
>> > coil
>> > has more space between the windings; at higher temperature, it pulls
>> > together beneath the TC producing a higher temp at that spot.  Then it
>> > relaxes when it cools off.  Of course that is imaginary, but a plausible
>> > alternative.  That is why it would be good to do at least conduction
>> > calorimetry.
>> >
>> > Jack
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:37 AM H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> MFMP performed a great service by collecting and tabulating this data.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject/photos/p.1126094137421284/1126094137421284/?type=3&theater
>> >>
>> >> What story do you read when you compare the active and null data sets
>> >> over
>> >> time?
>> >>
>> >> My reading of the active data set begins with the storage of energy
>> >> for the first 19 hrs and ends with the periodic release of energy for
>> >> the last 9hrs.  'Excess Heat' is not evident.
>> >>
>> >> Based on this reading, is it possible to explain the amount of energy
>> >> stored and released using just chemistry?
>> >>
>> >> Harry
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

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