I don't understand yet what is happening in the Holmlid experiments. There are shiploads of subatomic particles produced in the Holmlid reactor and Holmlid says that hot fusion is happening (which I doubt) and yet there is no gamma radiation coming out of all that chaos. Would the powers that be at CERN let their personal walk around the ATLAS detector when it was in operation producing Kaons. I don't think so. Does muons catalyze fusion inside the body if muons are injected? What happens to decaying Kaons inside the lungs. Should LENR experiments be done inside a Hot Cell just in case?
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote: > If speaking of conventional known radiations this comment about dose and > detection is true however in ‘cold fusion’ clearly the unknown is afoot. > One of those unknowns is what is it that can be there but not, or poorly, > be seen. For example what might be seen as a nominal presence near > background that can suddenly be made ‘visible’ to detectors where millirem > signals turn into kilorem! (micro-Sieverts to Sieverts if you prefer) > Fortunately the human body is more akin to our normal detectors than our > enhanced cold fusion mischegunon detectors so the harming dose equivalent > of those massive cold fusion radiations remains for us in health physics > terms as low doses. Still the better cold fusion cooks are sure to see the > most exposure and the nature of this new and still very poorly observed to > say nothing of described radiations is far from clear. More than a few cold > fusion scientists have succumbed already. As is said in ancient texts ‘one > does not catch the unknown in a net of the known.’ > > > > *From:* alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] *On > Behalf Of *Alain Sepeda > *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM > *To:* Vortex List > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick? > > > > the dose, and the speed of dose to make someone sick is huge and canbe > detected. > > This is what people name "deterministic effect" in radioprotection. > > This is above 700mSv as fast dose > > > > there is also undeterministic effect, typically cancer, whose severity is > independent of the dose, but which are trigger for adult above 100-200mSv > as fast dose. > > > > > > > > modern biology taught that a cell can endure a given number of genetic > destruction without any short or long term problem. > > above a given rate, there is undeterministic effect (risk of caner of any > gravity) > > and then above a high rate deterministic effect from sickness to death. > > > > there is much unfounded fear, especially for fulbody scan , foetal > irradiation, positron imaging... > > the threshold today are well known, and the linear dose no treshold > scarmongering is definitively dead, escept in the media... > > > > > > this article in french is a good reference > > http://www.pseudo-sciences.org/spip.php?article1789 > > translated: > > > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=fr&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pseudo-sciences.org%2Fspip.php%3Farticle1789&sandbox=1 > > > > for those doubting on it, it refers to element of biology that I've seen > few decade ago described for cancer inception , linked to HSP (heat shock > protein, which as said in the article don't work only for radiation but for > any aggression, mostly oxidative stress caused by respiration, the worst > aggression for DNA) > > > > there is a video in french which is very clear and interesting fro some > details not written > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L9rrD3t3FY > > > > for example there is reference to the number of damage that a cell can > endure without problem, and above whoch there is non deterministic risks. > > > > reference also to many myth propagated by scaremongers. > > I don't expect to convince as the propaganda is too strong to be opposed > by data. > > > > A phenomenon we observe in LENR domain. > > > > > > > > 2016-03-04 6:57 GMT+01:00 Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>: > > Rossi is complaining about a 'failure to thrive' condition such as losing > weight without reason. We might consider that a primary symptom of chronic > radiation exposure is unexplained weight loss. > > Andrea Rossi > March 3, 2016 at 9:07 PM > Jed Orwell: > I continue to lose weight and we do not understand why. I am going to make > a lot of “scopies” you name one, I scope it, but I feel well and work my 12 > hours per day on my E-Cats; today another important loophole with the E-Cat > X. > Anyway: yes, I am ready to pass to my Team all the skills necessary to > make without me, just in case. But I never in my life worked as well as I > am doing during these days. Obviously, the faster we go, the better. Until > the horse is good, better ride him. > F9. > Warm Regards, > A.R. > > LENR could be producing a form of stealth radiation; radiation that > damages structure and tissue but does not produce a reading on a radiation > meter. > > John Fisher has detected 1.5 MeV alpha particles radiating from a central > point of causation. Yet a gamma is not detected that should be there when > that alpha particle hits the CR-39. > > It is well known in many LENR experiments that helium is detected without > the generation of gamma radiation. This implies that alpha particles are > produced without the generation of the gammas that usually accompany the > alphas. > > How could this be possible, that alpha radiation can exist without the > detection of gamma radiation? It could be that a general state of multi > particle entanglement between the alpha particles and their center of > causation... let us call that cause an exotic neutral particle (ENP)... > transfers all gamma radiation through a quantum mechanical pathway to the > ENP. > > However, the damage that the alpha particle produces through kinetic > impact still occurs. Also, there is evidence that the ENP and float in the > air. If this is in fact true, this particle can be taken into the body > where it can catalyze nuclear reactions in tissue... and here too the gamma > radiation is hidden. > > This possibility entered my mind when Mark LeClair claimed that he and his > research partner were sickened and entered the hospital after a experiment > with a cavitation based LENR system. Could LeClair have taken into his body > a large number of these ENPs. > > It is important to understand how ENPs work if they exist to protect the > thousands of replicators that will be getting into the science of LENR. > > Like Marie Curie, Rossi might have sacrificed his health to the unknown > dangers that one must face in the LENR science. > > >
