FYI http://phys.org/news/2016-03-seeding-iron-pacific-carbon-air.html
Seeding iron in the Pacific may not pull carbon from air as thought On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is true that ‘few’ of us give a shit about the great dyings in the > world, but some are doing real work to provide the antidote to this … watch > my dust this year for more (nano hematite dust that is;) read more about > restoring the oceans at russgeorge.net > > > > *From:* ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 10:14 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick? > > > > Hell, we've got thousands of birds, fish, bats, bees, butterflies, coral > polyps, sea stars, sea lions dropping dead around us and very few > people seem to give a shit... > > On Friday, March 4, 2016, Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Maybe. > > One idea to protect humans from unknown risk is probably to put biological > canaries not far, especially some having less efficient HSP defense. > > > > making assumption on a blackswan is risky. > > anyway there are many things we have learned by observation, even if not > by theory. > > Until now the general ideas is that LENR really HATE radiations... that is > part of it's rejection cause. > > > > 2016-03-04 17:55 GMT+01:00 Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com>: > > If speaking of conventional known radiations this comment about dose and > detection is true however in ‘cold fusion’ clearly the unknown is afoot. > One of those unknowns is what is it that can be there but not, or poorly, > be seen. For example what might be seen as a nominal presence near > background that can suddenly be made ‘visible’ to detectors where millirem > signals turn into kilorem! (micro-Sieverts to Sieverts if you prefer) > Fortunately the human body is more akin to our normal detectors than our > enhanced cold fusion mischegunon detectors so the harming dose equivalent > of those massive cold fusion radiations remains for us in health physics > terms as low doses. Still the better cold fusion cooks are sure to see the > most exposure and the nature of this new and still very poorly observed to > say nothing of described radiations is far from clear. More than a few cold > fusion scientists have succumbed already. As is said in ancient texts ‘one > does not catch the unknown in a net of the known.’ > > > > *From:* alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] *On > Behalf Of *Alain Sepeda > *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM > *To:* Vortex List > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi sick? > > > > the dose, and the speed of dose to make someone sick is huge and canbe > detected. > > This is what people name "deterministic effect" in radioprotection. > > This is above 700mSv as fast dose > > > > there is also undeterministic effect, typically cancer, whose severity is > independent of the dose, but which are trigger for adult above 100-200mSv > as fast dose. > > > > > > > > modern biology taught that a cell can endure a given number of genetic > destruction without any short or long term problem. > > above a given rate, there is undeterministic effect (risk of caner of any > gravity) > > and then above a high rate deterministic effect from sickness to death. > > > > there is much unfounded fear, especially for fulbody scan , foetal > irradiation, positron imaging... > > the threshold today are well known, and the linear dose no treshold > scarmongering is definitively dead, escept in the media... > > > > > > this article in french is a good reference > > http://www.pseudo-sciences.org/spip.php?article1789 > > translated: > > > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=fr&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pseudo-sciences.org%2Fspip.php%3Farticle1789&sandbox=1 > > > > for those doubting on it, it refers to element of biology that I've seen > few decade ago described for cancer inception , linked to HSP (heat shock > protein, which as said in the article don't work only for radiation but for > any aggression, mostly oxidative stress caused by respiration, the worst > aggression for DNA) > > > > there is a video in french which is very clear and interesting fro some > details not written > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L9rrD3t3FY > > > > for example there is reference to the number of damage that a cell can > endure without problem, and above whoch there is non deterministic risks. > > > > reference also to many myth propagated by scaremongers. > > I don't expect to convince as the propaganda is too strong to be opposed > by data. > > > > A phenomenon we observe in LENR domain. > > > > > > > > 2016-03-04 6:57 GMT+01:00 Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>: > > Rossi is complaining about a 'failure to thrive' condition such as losing > weight without reason. We might consider that a primary symptom of chronic > radiation exposure is unexplained weight loss. > > Andrea Rossi > March 3, 2016 at 9:07 PM > Jed Orwell: > I continue to lose weight and we do not understand why. I am going to make > a lot of “scopies” you name one, I scope it, but I feel well and work my 12 > hours per day on my E-Cats; today another important loophole with the E-Cat > X. > Anyway: yes, I am ready to pass to my Team all the skills necessary to > make without me, just in case. But I never in my life worked as well as I > am doing during these days. Obviously, the faster we go, the better. Until > the horse is good, better ride him. > F9. > Warm Regards, > A.R. > > LENR could be producing a form of stealth radiation; radiation that > damages structure and tissue but does not produce a reading on a radiation > meter. > > John Fisher has detected 1.5 MeV alpha particles radiating from a central > point of causation. Yet a gamma is not detected that should be there when > that alpha particle hits the CR-39. > > It is well known in many LENR experiments that helium is detected without > the generation of gamma radiation. This implies that alpha particles are > produced without the generation of the gammas that usually accompany the > alphas. > > How could this be possible, that alpha radiation can exist without the > detection of gamma radiation? It could be that a general state of multi > particle entanglement between the alpha particles and their center of > causation... let us call that cause an exotic neutral particle (ENP)... > transfers all gamma radiation through a quantum mechanical pathway to the > ENP. > > However, the damage that the alpha particle produces through kinetic > impact still occurs. Also, there is evidence that the ENP and float in the > air. If this is in fact true, this particle can be taken into the body > where it can catalyze nuclear reactions in tissue... and here too the gamma > radiation is hidden. > > This possibility entered my mind when Mark LeClair claimed that he and his > research partner were sickened and entered the hospital after a experiment > with a cavitation based LENR system. Could LeClair have taken into his body > a large number of these ENPs. > > It is important to understand how ENPs work if they exist to protect the > thousands of replicators that will be getting into the science of LENR. > > Like Marie Curie, Rossi might have sacrificed his health to the unknown > dangers that one must face in the LENR science. > > > > > >
