Yes Jones, but I have always maintained the fact that COP can be raised whenever the beginning point is greater than 1. I do not agree that it has a limitation as long as the geometry can be adjusted.
For example. take a design that has a fixed surface area and volume with a measured amount of fuel contained within. If you agree that this design can deliver a COP of 1.5 then you must agree that the outer surface temperature can be determined to be at some level, when a certain input power is applied. Now, if you double the amount of fuel contained within the volume you can be quite certain that the outside temperature will increase, correct? The new quantity of fuel just added must put out additional heat once it is subjected to the original internal temperature. Any new heat exiting the device adds to the original quantity that was used to calculate the original COP. This is very simple to understand and I do not see any explanation that can be used to deny that the COP should nearly double in the new example. The same general type of arguement can be applied by the addition of insulation. In both cases above the input power can remain the same while the output power varies depending upon the amount of fuel that is inserted within the fixed volume. In a like manner the COP can be reduced to 1 by removing all of the fuel. It works both ways. Can you point out why this would not work as I have described? A simple example would suffice. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Apr 11, 2016 12:24 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Next Big Future - goes out on a limb From: David Roberson If you accept that Rossi can achieve a COP of 1.5 then you must realize that adding insulation can be used to increase that number to any desired level. Not true at all, Dave The COP of 1.5 requires good insulation to begin with. We have been thought this before, if you will remember. Achieving net gain requires a trigger, but every experimenter in the field has noted that a thermal trigger is no sufficient. Look at the old posts. An electrical trigger of some kind is also necessary, otherwise – the units could be linked in stages. There are dozens of posts in the archive on this – some from you, IIRC.
