Another question is whether there was a feed water pump that would maintain a 
constant pressure on the flow meter and a full meter no matter what the 
orientation.


I would think such a system would require a constant flow and heat transfer 
coeff. for the heat exchangers to maintain stability.


There may also be an orifice to assure constant flow.


A flow diagram of the system should be in hand before concluding issues about 
flow.


Bob Cook

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From: Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 7:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

What I meant is that the flow axis (also the turbine propeller axis) should be 
vertical to insure that the flow tube (housing the turbine) is fully filled.

I believe such turbines have a rotor (like a propeller) with an axis coaxial 
with the flow tube and low blockage spider supports for the rotor shaft.  Then 
there is an electrical or mechanical coupling of the rotor rotation to measure 
the flow speed usually out the side of the flow tube.

If the flow tube were mounted horizontally and the pipe was half full, to first 
order it would indicate twice the flow as actual.  Second order effects have to 
take into account the turning resistance of the turbine, which is usually very 
low.  Again, the turbine is measuring the speed of the flowing medium whether 
it is full or not (to first order).

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Jed Rothwell 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Bob Higgins <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Do you know the orientation of the flow meter?  It is only possible to have a 
pipe half full if the flow meter is mounted horizontally (a mistake for use of 
this type of flow meter).

Umm . . . I don't follow what you mean. Do you mean the pipe should be 
vertical? I don't know what you mean by having the flow meter vertical. Like, 
sideways? It is a rotor smack in the middle of the pipe . . . so I don't get 
what you mean.

The pipe was horizontal and the flow meter face plate is up. As far as I know.


If the flow meter was mounted horizontally, and the pipe was half full, the 
turbine would turn at the speed of the water (same as if it were full) - since 
a full pipe was presumed in the indication of rate, it would be in error by the 
volumetric difference between the pipe full volume and the pipe partly filled 
volume.

I believe the error can be complicated. It is not like: "the pipe is half full 
so the actual flow rate is half of what is indicated." A partially full pipe 
can produce a huge error. That is my impression reading about flow meters and 
using them myself, but I have no specific information on the extent of the 
error in Rossi's setup. (I think I.H. does have this information.) As you saw, 
I estimated it has to be at least 3. That seems plausible to me.

- Jed


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