Hi Bob,  you got me to thinking how to measure any changes in spin coupling
or the how to detect a BEC in solid and so I began to wonder if measuring
magnetic susceptibility in PdH and PdD would show anything.  I found an
interesting old paper by H C Jamieson and F D Manchester "The magnetic
susceptibility of Pd, PdH and PdD between 4 and 300 K" 1972 J. Phys. F:
Met. Phys. 2 323 http://iopscience.iop.org/0305-4608/2/2/023.

This was from back in the 70s so take it as you may.   What I found
interesting is in the beta phase of Pd (H) was tending to be diamagnetic
(repels) and nearly independent of temperature.  That would seem to
indicate that the H are becoming spin aligned and could hint at the
formation of a BEC system.  I also see a trend that D is also heading
towards diamagenetic (negative susceptibility) with increasing  D loading.

So does someone have a newer paper on the subject?





On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> CD Sites—
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> I have for some time been of the mind that nuclear potential energy tied
> up in a lattice of coherent (entangled) particles is transfered to the
> lattice electrons in the form of spin orbital momentum—phonic energy during
> LENR.
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> In the Pd system with D at high loading a small BEC of D nuclei  could
> form and then fuse to He g iven the correct  conditions involving EM
> coupling to link neutron and proton magnetic moments with magnetic moments
> of the Pd lattice electrons.  In this regard I consider it takes a
> relatively strong local B field to accomplish the necessary coupling with
> the neutron and proton making up a D nucleus.
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> The BEC status of D’s within the lattice would allow their close approach
> during a reaction forming a He nucleus.  The potential energy released
> would not result in energetic particles or EM radiation, but only phonic
> (spin) energy spread across the entire lattice.
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> With proper resonant coupling and many BEC within a single lattice a
> larger, more energetic, reaction occurs releasing enough phonic energy to
> destroy the lattice or to create a bosenova.
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> The reactions suggested above seem to fit observations from Pd system LENR
> testing IMHO.
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> Bob Cook.
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> *From: *CB Sites <cbsit...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 13, 2017 3:49 PM
> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature
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> I'm kind of late on this, but would spin conservation do what Ed Storm
> asked?
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> "However, why would only a few hydrons fuse leaving just enough unreacted
> hydrons available to carry all the energy without it producing
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> energetic radiation? I would expect occasionally,many hydrons would fuse
> leaving too few unreacted hydrons so that the dissipated energy
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> would have to be very energetic and easily detected."
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>   If I remember, Steve and Talbot Chubbs had proposed that bose band
> states could distribute the energy over many nucleons
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> in the band state.  In a 1D kronig-penny model of a periodic potential, H
> and D form bands and their band energy levels are separated by a
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> 0.2eV, which means when 20MeV is spread across the band, the spectrum
> would be 20MeV / (n * 0.2eV) where n are the number of hyrons
>
> making up the band.  That's just back of the envelope using a 2D
> kronig-penny period potential.  And all of that photon energy spread over
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> n-hydrons gets dumped right back into the lattice.  Similar in a sense to
> the Mossbauer effect.
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> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2017/jun/12/
> superfluid-polaritons-seen-at-room-temperature
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> Superfluid polaritons seen at room temperature
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> the polaritons behave like a fluid that can flow without friction around
> obstacles, which were formed by using a laser to burn small holes in the
> organic material. This is interpreted by the researchers as being a
> signature of the superfluid behaviour.
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> there might be some sort of link between a superfluid and a Bose–Einstein
> condensate (BEC) – the latter being a state of matter in which all
> constituent particles have condensed into a single quantum state. He was
> proved right in 1995 when superfluidity was observed in BECs made from
> ultracold atoms
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> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> A Bose condinsate brings super radiance and super absorption into play.
> These mechanisms produce concentration, storage,  and amplification of low
> level energy and goes as "N", the number of items in the condinsate.
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> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Frank Znidarsic <fznidar...@aol.com>
> wrote:
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> Why is a Bose Condensate needed?  Its a matter of size and energy.  The
> smaller the size of something we want to see the more energy it takes.
> Using low energy radar you will never be able to read something as small as
> this text.  You need to go to UV energies to study atoms.  Higher ionizing
> energies are needed to study the nuclear forces.  Really high energy
> accelerator energies are required to look at subatomic particles.
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>
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> The common complaint physicists have with cold fusion is that the energy
> levels are to low to induce any type of nuclear reaction.  They never,
> however, considered the energy levels of a large hundreds of atoms wide
> condensed nano-particle.  Its energy levels are quite low.  Warm thermal
> vibrations appear to the nano particle as a high energy excitation.  This
> again is a matter of its size.  It's not cracks, or shrunken atoms at
> work.  It is the thermal excitation of a nano particle that yields the
> required energy.
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> Again the simulation induces a velocity of one million meters per second.
>
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> Frank Z
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