That was John Rohner, Bob Rohner is still at it. See
http://revolution-green.com/unconventional-green-energy/the-papp-engine-history-and-current-progress/ On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:25 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com < bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote: > MORE INFORMATION: > > > > http://worldnpa.org/abstracts/abstracts_paperlink_6835.pdf > > > > It seems the FBI raided the Company developing the Papp engine in 2013 and > the Government took the technology in to the dark IMHO. > > > > TOO BAD. > > > > I wonder if the company has been charged with a crime? Or merely given an > order curtailing their ability to communicate—i.e., speak. They (the real > people affected) should check with the ACLU. > > > > The reported raid sounds typical of a shady attempt to curtail R&D. > > > > Bob Cook > > > > > *Subject: *RE: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation > > > > The following may help understanding: > > > > http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/PappEngine-Valone.pdf > > > > Bob Cook > > *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > *Sent: *Monday, July 24, 2017 12:05 PM > *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation > > > > · One of the big mysteries of the Papp engine is understanding the > Papp engine fuel preparation device. What does that device do and why is it > important to the function of the Papp engine? All the Papp engine > replicators have discounted the need to use this fuel prep device and try > to get the Papp engine to work without prepared fuel. Papp knew that > prepared fuel was critically important to getting the engine to work. Three > months before his death in 1989, Papp destroyed all the fuel he had > prepared so that no one could ever get his engine to work ever again. The > engine laid useless inside his workshop. That engine was his alone forever > and could never be shared with the world. > > > > The cavitation theory of the Papp engine provides the reason why fuel > preparation is essential. A intense shock wave is required to form the > ultra dense crystal nature of the fuel in the alternate paired cylinder. > Without that shockwave, active fuel cannot be formed. The fuel preparation > device produced ultra dense water and latter in the fuel to act as a > bootstrap or initial plasma shock wave so that cavitation could occur in > the paired cylinder. Without that first shock wave, recurring fuel > formation does not begin in the alternate cylinder when the compression of > the water vapor/gas is underway. > > > > Papp used this prepared fuel to disintegrate a 5/8 inch stainless steel > pipe when he demoed his Papp common in the desert. > > > > [image: Joseph-Papp-Cannon-1.jpg] > <https://www.lenr-forum.com/image-proxy/?key=998716491dd35bfa8775404889e158043cfdbac45986a6962e9cadbf31078490-aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbWVyaWNhbmFudGlncmF2aXR5LmNvbS93cC1jb250ZW50L3VwbG9hZHMvMjAxMi8wOS9Kb3NlcGgtUGFwcC1DYW5ub24tMS5qcGc%3D> > > o Edit > <https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5306-the-papp-engine-and-cavitation/?postID=66493> > > o > > o > > · > > > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am beginning to understand that the Papp engine was a cavitation based > device. > > > > In the 1960's Papp used water for his fuel. Papp must have produced water > crystals in the compression part of the cylinder cycle where the volume of > the cylinder was decreasing. During this increasing pressure environment > inside the cylinder, cavitation bubbles must have formed thereby producing > ultra dense water crystals. > > > > For example, some larger diesel engines suffer from cavitation due to > high compression and undersized cylinder walls. Vibrations of the > cylinder wall induce alternating low and high pressure in the coolant against > the cylinder wall. The result is pitting of the cylinder wall, which will > eventually let cooling fluid leak into the cylinder and combustion gases > to leak into the coolant. > > > > To stop the cavitation based erosion of the cylinder walls and the > subsequent loss of compression over time, Papp went to noble gases which > produce ultra dense noble gas crystals during the compression stage of the > cylinder cycle but the formation of ultra dense noble gas crystals did not > damage the cylinder walls. > > > > When Papp fired a spark, the ultra dense noble gas crystals exploded as > happens in the Holmlid experiment when the ultra dense hydrogen cycltals > produce atomic particle fragments that move outward at 3/4 the speed of > light. Currently, Holmlid does not capture that huge amount of energy > inherent to his expanding plasma. > > > > To utilize the energy in the expanding plasma, Holmlid might capture that > nuclear powered expanding plasma as Papp once did in an engine design using > ultra dense hydrogen as fuel. > > > > > > >