That was John Rohner, Bob Rohner is still at it.

See



http://revolution-green.com/unconventional-green-energy/the-papp-engine-history-and-current-progress/



On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:25 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> MORE INFORMATION:
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> http://worldnpa.org/abstracts/abstracts_paperlink_6835.pdf
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> It seems the FBI raided the Company developing the Papp engine in 2013 and
> the Government took the technology in to the dark IMHO.
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> TOO BAD.
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> I wonder if the company has been charged with a crime? Or merely given an
> order curtailing their ability to communicate—i.e., speak.  They (the real
> people affected) should check with the ACLU.
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> The reported raid sounds typical of a shady attempt to curtail R&D.
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> Bob Cook
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> *Subject: *RE: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation
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> The following may help understanding:
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> http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/PappEngine-Valone.pdf
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> Bob Cook
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> *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, July 24, 2017 12:05 PM
> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation
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> ·        One of the big mysteries of the Papp engine is understanding the
> Papp engine fuel preparation device. What does that device do and why is it
> important to the function of the Papp engine? All the Papp engine
> replicators have discounted the need to use this fuel prep device and try
> to get the Papp engine to work without prepared fuel. Papp knew that
> prepared fuel was critically important to getting the engine to work. Three
> months before his death in 1989, Papp destroyed all the fuel he had
> prepared so that no one could ever get his engine to work ever again. The
> engine laid useless inside his workshop. That engine was his alone forever
> and could never be shared with the world.
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> The cavitation theory of the Papp engine provides the reason why fuel
> preparation is essential. A intense shock wave is required to form the
> ultra dense crystal nature of the fuel in the alternate paired cylinder.
> Without that shockwave, active fuel cannot be formed. The fuel preparation
> device produced ultra dense water and latter in the fuel to act as a
> bootstrap or initial plasma shock wave so that cavitation could occur in
> the paired cylinder. Without that first shock wave, recurring fuel
> formation does not begin in the alternate cylinder when the compression of
> the water vapor/gas is underway.
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> Papp used this prepared fuel to disintegrate a 5/8 inch stainless steel
> pipe when he demoed his Papp common in the desert.
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> [image: Joseph-Papp-Cannon-1.jpg]
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> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am beginning to understand that the Papp engine was a cavitation based
> device.
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> In the 1960's Papp used water for his fuel. Papp must have produced water
> crystals in the compression part of the cylinder cycle where the volume of
> the cylinder was decreasing. During this increasing pressure environment
> inside the cylinder, cavitation bubbles must have formed thereby producing
> ultra dense water crystals.
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> For example, some larger diesel engines suffer from cavitation due to
> high compression and undersized cylinder walls. Vibrations of the
> cylinder wall induce alternating low and high pressure in the coolant against
> the cylinder wall. The result is pitting of the cylinder wall, which will
> eventually let cooling fluid leak into the cylinder and combustion gases
> to leak into the coolant.
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> To stop the cavitation based erosion of the cylinder walls and the
> subsequent loss of compression over time, Papp went to noble gases which
> produce ultra dense noble gas crystals during the compression stage of the
> cylinder cycle but the formation of ultra dense noble gas crystals did not
> damage the cylinder walls.
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> When Papp fired a spark, the ultra dense noble gas crystals exploded as
> happens in the Holmlid experiment when the ultra dense hydrogen cycltals
> produce atomic particle fragments that move outward at 3/4 the speed of
> light. Currently, Holmlid does not capture that huge amount of energy
> inherent to his expanding plasma.
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> To utilize the energy in the expanding plasma, Holmlid might capture that
> nuclear powered expanding plasma as Papp once did in an engine design using
> ultra dense hydrogen as fuel.
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