So.. 'Building 7' is for 'conspiracy nuts' for instance, huh?
You KNOW what it means, when you look at those videos of Building 7...


No wonder I have no respect for the 'middle-of-the-road' (i.e. cowardly,
self-interested) middle-class. Phil Ochs had a song about youse people.
And no wonder it's so easy for the scientific Establishment to not only
pooh-pooh, but to *persecute* Cold Fusion researchers.






On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote:
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> So now we rely on conspiracy theories when the technology cannot be made
to work.
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> Occam's Razor would suggest an inability of the  inventor, not his
government agents acting ill.
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> Over 90% of folks who believe in UFOs also subscribe to conspiracy
theories. They need to to explain the 100% lack of any UFO evidence.
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> My guess is that Rossi supporters are also UFO buffs.
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> From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com <bobcook39...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:25 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation
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> MORE INFORMATION:
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> http://worldnpa.org/abstracts/abstracts_paperlink_6835.pdf
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> The Revolutionary Plasma Power Technology of Josef Papp
> worldnpa.org
> The Revolutionary Plasma Power Technology of Josef Papp Barry Springer
NPA Web Seminar November 24, 2012 Updated April 7, 2013
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> It seems the FBI raided the Company developing the Papp engine in 2013
and the Government took the technology in to the dark IMHO.
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> TOO BAD.
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> I wonder if the company has been charged with a crime? Or merely given an
order curtailing their ability to communicate—i.e., speak.  They (the real
people affected) should check with the ACLU.
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> The reported raid sounds typical of a shady attempt to curtail R&D.
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> Bob Cook
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> Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation
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> The following may help understanding:
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> http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/PappEngine-Valone.pdf
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> Bob Cook
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> From: Axil Axil
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 12:05 PM
> To: vortex-l
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation
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> ·        One of the big mysteries of the Papp engine is understanding the
Papp engine fuel preparation device. What does that device do and why is it
important to the function of the Papp engine? All the Papp engine
replicators have discounted the need to use this fuel prep device and try
to get the Papp engine to work without prepared fuel. Papp knew that
prepared fuel was critically important to getting the engine to work. Three
months before his death in 1989, Papp destroyed all the fuel he had
prepared so that no one could ever get his engine to work ever again. The
engine laid useless inside his workshop. That engine was his alone forever
and could never be shared with the world.
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> The cavitation theory of the Papp engine provides the reason why fuel
preparation is essential. A intense shock wave is required to form the
ultra dense crystal nature of the fuel in the alternate paired cylinder.
Without that shockwave, active fuel cannot be formed. The fuel preparation
device produced ultra dense water and latter in the fuel to act as a
bootstrap or initial plasma shock wave so that cavitation could occur in
the paired cylinder. Without that first shock wave, recurring fuel
formation does not begin in the alternate cylinder when the compression of
the water vapor/gas is underway.
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> Papp used this prepared fuel to disintegrate a 5/8 inch stainless steel
pipe when he demoed his Papp common in the desert.
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> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am beginning to understand that the Papp engine was a cavitation based
device.
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> In the 1960's Papp used water for his fuel. Papp must have produced water
crystals in the compression part of the cylinder cycle where the volume of
the cylinder was decreasing. During this increasing pressure environment
inside the cylinder, cavitation bubbles must have formed thereby producing
ultra dense water crystals.
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> For example, some larger diesel engines suffer from cavitation due to
high compression and undersized cylinder walls. Vibrations of the cylinder
wall induce alternating low and high pressure in the coolant against the
cylinder wall. The result is pitting of the cylinder wall, which will
eventually let cooling fluid leak into the cylinder and combustion gases to
leak into the coolant.
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> To stop the cavitation based erosion of the cylinder walls and the
subsequent loss of compression over time, Papp went to noble gases which
produce ultra dense noble gas crystals during the compression stage of the
cylinder cycle but the formation of ultra dense noble gas crystals did not
damage the cylinder walls.
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> When Papp fired a spark, the ultra dense noble gas crystals exploded as
happens in the Holmlid experiment when the ultra dense hydrogen cycltals
produce atomic particle fragments that move outward at 3/4 the speed of
light. Currently, Holmlid does not capture that huge amount of energy
inherent to his expanding plasma.
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> To utilize the energy in the expanding plasma, Holmlid might capture that
nuclear powered expanding plasma as Papp once did in an engine design using
ultra dense hydrogen as fuel.
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