See http://www.rexresearch.com/papp/1papp.htm
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So where's this patent? > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Papp spent a few years developing the noble gas version of his engine >> control that was more stable. By the early '80s, Papp found a new engineer >> to work with, Bob Rohner of West Liberty, Iowa. Papp settled in Florida. >> Several working engines ran during the Rohner years, which lasted until >> Papp died in '89. During this time, his third patent application was met >> with a USPTO request for a working model. Papp refused to not only take an >> engine to Washington DC, but also to leave it with anyone for any length of >> time. The USPTO then requested a dynamometer affidavit. A diesel engine >> test group associated with the University of Oklahoma agreed to come to >> Florida to test the engine. The affidavit was accepted by the USPTO and >> they issued the patent. >> >> That patent was designated by the patent office to be the best patent >> granted in that patent year. >> >> What other overunity devices has be granted a patent? >> >> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Rossi - Papp What's the difference. There is not support data. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:53 PM >>> *To:* vortex-l >>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation >>> >>> I have been trying to understate how the Papp engine works for years. It >>> is a mystery. This is no information available on how it works. >>> >>> A clue to the production of a plasma based explosion is now coming from >>> Holmlid's experiments. Holmlid has just discovered that a spark can be used >>> to activate that plasma explosion just as well as a laser pulse. >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Where's the best online source to go to for information on this? >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am beginning to understand that the Papp engine was a cavitation >>>>> based device. >>>>> >>>>> In the 1960's Papp used water for his fuel. Papp must have produced >>>>> water crystals in the compression part of the cylinder cycle where the >>>>> volume of the cylinder was decreasing. During this increasing pressure >>>>> environment inside the cylinder, cavitation bubbles must have formed >>>>> thereby producing ultra dense water crystals. >>>>> >>>>> For example, some larger diesel engines suffer from cavitation due to >>>>> high compression and undersized cylinder walls. Vibrations of the >>>>> cylinder wall induce alternating low and high pressure in the coolant >>>>> against >>>>> the cylinder wall. The result is pitting of the cylinder wall, which will >>>>> eventually let cooling fluid leak into the cylinder and combustion >>>>> gases to leak into the coolant. >>>>> >>>>> To stop the cavitation based erosion of the cylinder walls and the >>>>> subsequent loss of compression over time, Papp went to noble gases which >>>>> produce ultra dense noble gas crystals during the compression stage of the >>>>> cylinder cycle but the formation of ultra dense noble gas crystals did not >>>>> damage the cylinder walls. >>>>> >>>>> When Papp fired a spark, the ultra dense noble gas crystals exploded >>>>> as happens in the Holmlid experiment when the ultra dense hydrogen >>>>> cycltals >>>>> produce atomic particle fragments that move outward at 3/4 the speed of >>>>> light. Currently, Holmlid does not capture that huge amount of energy >>>>> inherent to his expanding plasma. >>>>> >>>>> To utilize the energy in the expanding plasma, Holmlid might capture >>>>> that nuclear powered expanding plasma as Papp once did in an engine design >>>>> using ultra dense hydrogen as fuel. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >