Bob,

You have raised some important points in your answers to Robin. Can you
provide some references to support them?

In particular, I am interested in the non-photonic transfer of angular
momentum from the nucleus to a bound electron. I think that it is well
accepted that the nucleus can transfer energy to bound electrons via the
Coulomb field. Nevertheless, I think that Schwinger, along with his papers
on cold fusion, was mocked for suggesting that internal nuclear energy
could be shared with the potential energy of electrons and thus the
lattice. However, as a central force, this energy transfer cannot convey
ang mom.

My interest is in the interaction of deep-orbit electrons with the internal
structure of the nucleus such as charged quarks and possible
sub-components. At close range, these bodies are no longer providing just
central forces. While the interaction is not photonic in the normal sense
(i.e., via transverse EM waves), it *can* be considered via longitudinal
photons. Again, internal conversion, would suggest that no ang mom need be
transferred in such interactions. This does not suggest that such transfer
cannot occur, only that it is not observed on the normal scale of hbar. (If
I am wrong about this, I would appreciate correction.)

Compound nuclei have ang mom on this level that can be transferred to the
EM field to form photons. However, is there any information on ang mom of
quarks? If so, this could lead to speculation about non-scalar coupling
between a proton and a deep-orbit electron.

Andrew

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 4:02 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
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> 1) What is this "coherent system", and specifically, in what respect is it
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> 2) How do you propose that the nuclear energy is actually coupled to the 
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> 3) Changes in angular momentum of nuclei are usually paired with emission of a
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>    1. A  coherent system is adiabatic system of energy, including local
>    packets of energy—electrons positrons and neutrinos---that are coupled by a
>    EM field that responds very quickly (less than 10e-30mseconds) to energy
>    additions or losses by changing the space relation of the energy packets.
>    A good example is a semi conductor crystal that absorbs an electron packet
>    of energy and very quickly changes the allowable energy state of conduction
>     electrons.  There is no apparent delay associated with the allowed energy
>    state across the macroscopic rang of the semi conductor.  Systems which
>    harbor phonic energy are coherent systems, since the lattice acts as a
>    whole without any time dely.
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> The energy of the coherent system is constrained by  small quanta of
> energy and angular momentum in accordance with Planck’s theory of quantized
> energy and quantized angular momentum.  In addition the coherent system
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> relative motions (kinetic energies) and reduce their total potential energy
> increasing entropy per the second law of thermodynamics..
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>    1. As noted above the coherent system is coupled by EM
>    fields—primarily magnetic fields that connect electron orbital angular
>    momentum with nuclear angular momentum, including energy packet intrinsic
>    spin  angular momentum which  reflects the magnetic moment associated with
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>    1. There is no gamma emission within the coherent system—only
>    instanteous changes of  angular momentum  and/or energy between between
>    locations within the coherent system.  (Later in time adjacent coherent
>    systems may conduct heat between them selves via radiant EM coupling or
>    other coupling involving phonic energy changes of the original coherent
>    system.  Too much phonic energy will destroy the lattice of the system in
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