Jones; Why play with him, he is only learning to spread his wings?
-----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]: Re: Loop closed? (was Re: High efficiency electrolysis) Michel Jullian wrote: >> My scheme simply can NOT work as I realized before I even posted it, because >> the absolute max efficiency of a heat pump, which depends only on the absolute >> temperatures of the hot and cold sources, is exactly equal to one over the >> absolute max efficiency of a heat engine working with the same temperature >> sources (the formulae derive from the W and Q formula Ron gave), so that if >> you increase one you decrease the other, and when you multiply the two the >> very best you can get is a global COP of... 1. ;-( Actually, Michel, no one was fooled by your ruse for a nanosecond, as I am sure that you must realize but nevertheless, it is interesting to continue the thread to its logical ending ... ...which is this: what you have stated above in not necessarily true: i.e "when you multiply the two the very best you can get is a global COP of 1" ... as you have neglected a very important point. So let me challenge you: can you find the fault in your own logic? Hint: this will involve expanding the formula outside of its local frame into a larger frame of reference .... somewhat as a microcosm of the differences between SR and GR. Jones
