>
> On Feb 15, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: OrionWorks <svj.orionwo...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:30 am
> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change
> >
> >> Hi Thomas,
> >>
> >> <Sunday's service>
> >>
> >> I believe in Intelligent Design.
> >>
> >> Consider the possibility that ID has done a fantastic job of
> >> designing
> >> Evolution in such an unfathomable way that we have only just
> begun to
> >> scratch the Cosmic Wisdom behind its purpose.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, as we learn more about what drives the checks and
> >> balances introduced into evolution's blue print it seems to have
> >> unhinged so many
individuals that many feel compelled to dumb
> it down
> >> into the guise of spiritual paradigms and easily digestible moral
> >> tales where humans are often conveniently placed the center of
> >> evolution's ultimate purpose.
> >>
> >> Perhaps G-d's greater designs on Evolution have many, many more
> >> surprises in store for us, if only we will allow ourselves to
> simply>> keep observing its grandeur in action and not feel
> compelled to pass
> >> judgment over what we observe, if only we will allow ourselves
> not to
> >> freak out at the immensity of its incompressible purpose.
> >>
> >> </Sunday's service>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Steven Vincent Johnson
> >> www.OrionWorks.com
> >> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
> >>
> >
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> > Steven,
> > It is necessary to "dumb it down" if you believe in a loving
> > god/creator. Otherwise this intelligent designer is either
> indifferent> to humans or a sadist.
>
> Surely Harry, a God that has been around for at least 12 billion
> years
> and operates throughout the universe can have more than these two
> attitudes. The Christian religion has always suffered from this
> very
> narrow view of God, which has lead to some very harmful
> conclusions.
> Imagine any of the following possibilities.
>
> 1. This planet is designed by God to inflict suffering as a way to
>
> teach wisdom.
> 2. This planet is one of several penal colonies for the universe.
> 3. Suffering is a natural experience, just like death and gravity.
> It
> comes with life and cannot be avoided, even by the "son of God".
> 4. God
had nothing to do with the earth except that this is one of
> the
> many different results of the grand plan. We are as important as a
>
> grain of sand in the universe.
> 5. God is heard only when a person has grown wise enough to
> listen,
> which does not include most people. Consequently, God remains a
> mystery, especially to religions.
>
> I could go on, but you get the point.
>
> Regards,
> Ed
> >
> >
> > Harry
> >
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