On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Mark S Bilk wrote: > So anyone who speaks out against U.S. government policies is well > justified in doing so anonymously. In this case anonymity does _not_ > mean: > > >>"probably criminal element" ..."teenager," or "newbie user."
Then I'll permanently ban him from both lists, as well as everyone else who attempts to make that sort of politics the central feature of vortex-L. He can quietly come back with a real name, talk science, and make no attempt to attract the FBI to the vortex forum. And I suggest you think twice about making excuses for such slimy dishonest behavior. There are THOUSANDS of very serious problems in the world, and self-promoters invariably use this fact as an excuse to push their personal agendas into forums devoted to other subjects. Get rid of all the science here? Since you personally have FAR more important topics that need to dominate the discussions? But note well that the people trying this are never creating their own forums and calling for users. Instead they invade other lists and ignore the existing community while hiding their intent behind dishonest excuses. It's a common Troll trick. Take such discussion to your own new forum, or to any number of politics- centered lists, or just vtxB, keep it OFF this one. After a few weeks or months this idea might sink in, and we can go back to normal. In the mean time: producing ionizing radiation with light water electrolysis: simple enough for a school science fair, but nobody bothers to give it a try: http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/368TGP_oriani.pdf (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci