Grok is a coward. If he really believed what he was preaching, then he wouldn't be afraid to use his real name.
I think most everyone I'm aware of on this list has apologized at one time or another... It's what a person with integrity does when they realize their mistake or transgression. The fact that grok is incapable of such behavior (all he knows is arrogance and condescension), shows his true self; one lacking humility, reflection, self-awareness consciousness... Asking for an apology and real name are justified in this instance. He will, or already has, tried to blame others for his situation; he needs to point the finger in his direction. I doubt if he is even capable of that... Personal responsibility is something he hasn't shown either. -Mark -----Original Message----- From: William Beaty [mailto:bi...@eskimo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:grok is removed temporarily On Sun, 7 Jun 2009, Harry Veeder wrote: > > Grok said no thanks, to the above. > I am not sure why he should apologize for his off-topic postings, Political posting sent here, rather than to vtxB. > If you expect him to reveal his true identity then that should be > written in the rules. Nope. If any user misbehaves so badly that they draw complaints from the entire community, then I'll fix the problem, which includes crafting arbitrary and mysterious requirements on a whim. As with any professional community, people with real names are welcome, and people who hide their identities have marked themselves as "probably criminal element" in the eyes of the group ...although on internet, anonymity also means "teenager," or "newbie user." (Which of the three is worse?) To impress fellow professionals, always put your address and phone number in your sig. This is an unwritten societal rule which applies to the entire world, not just online or on vortex: try walking around downtown wearing a mask, see what happens. Perhaps vortex should require surrendering anonymity, but it's much work to do it right (to avoid fake identities.) > If the political commentary incorporates *personal* insults, instead > of There is very specifically no rule against insults on Vortex-L. However, people who habitually use personal insults will attract complaints from the entire community, and then... (see above.) (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.55/2160 - Release Date: 06/07/09 05:53:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.55/2160 - Release Date: 06/07/09 05:53:00
