----- Original Message -----
From: Horace Heffner <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!

> 
> On Jun 28, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Horace Heffner <[email protected]>
> > Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:30 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!
> >
> >> I've updated:
> >>
> >> http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/HullMotor.pdf
> >>
> >> to add: "Regarding Fig. 5, a strategy to improve conductivity and
> >> yet
> >> retain some of the effective flux is to construct the driver disk
> >> using a thin copper disk sandwiched between two iron disks.  A
> >> further improvement would consist of cutting fine radial groves in
> >> the outer portion of the central copper disk in order to keep the
> >> radial current tightly confined geometrically.  It is possible to
> >> construct both the brush disk and active disk in an identical
> >> manner,
> >> and thus obtain two active disks.  The control experiment then
> >> consists of replacing the iron disks with copper disks."
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Horace Heffner
> >> http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
> >>
> >
> > I wonder if it would work if the ends of the shaft were connected 
> 
> > to the
> > leads with brushes, instead of connecting the leads to the bearings.
> >
> > Harry
> 
> 
> If you look at Fig. 5  in the above pdf you will see the brushes 
> are  
> connected to the shaft and not the ball bearings. This takes ball  
> bearings out of the picture entirely.  

Ahh I see. I wasn't sure.

> Mercury or some other liquid 
> 
> conductor might be used in place of brushes, provided the shaft in  
> Fig. 5 is made vertical, and the end of the shaft dipped in the  
> mercury or other liquid conductor to form the "brush".
> 
> Using just brushes on the circumference of the shaft, instead of  
> connecting the power to the bearings,  should work somewhat 
> provided  
> the shaft is magnetic, and the brushes closely approximate a point. 

Using a magnetic shaft might disrupt the effect, but I am only guessing.
 
> The problem with brushes in any case is friction.  Perhaps graphite 
> 
> lubricant could help, and provide more of an arc-like contact, at  
> least briefly.  One problem with using the shaft directly is that 
> the  
> radial path L of the current i is thereby minimized, so the i L x M 
> 
> force is minimized.  That's why I suggest the use of the  
> comparatively thin wheel conduction path augmented by sectioning.  
> A  
> solid steel shaft should work better than a hollow shaft, and a 
> large  
> diameter solid shaft should work better than a small diameter shaft 
> 
> for that direct contact with the shaft approach.
> 


How about if the leads were connected to the ends of a fixed shaft and
let the outer racers rotate instead? That would eliminate the brush
friction.

Harry

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