Horace
* Jones, it's good to hear someone talk that way! Did you finally read my paper? I read your paper some time ago and may have commented on it when you were "off air" but this is not easy stuff to grasp. The quark connection could materialize in other ways too, but you deserve the credit for introducing this radical notion to LENR and especially to Ni-H . AFAIK. It is looking more and more relevant as other explanations fall. * As applied to heavy element LENR, the above is an important aspect of my deflation fusion theory, that some of the enthalpy that results, especially from weak force reactions, which immediately follow the strong force reactions, is from the zero point field. Yes. There is also the Miley / Holmlid IRH (inverted Rydberg hydrogen) possibility. When you get a bunch of protons on a 2D dielectric surface with mirror charge, and they are so densified that they are all within strong force effect distance, yet cannot fuse but mingle in some kind of matter wave, then the only alternative if they are disrupted, really, is some kind of "quark soup" reorganization . thus the strangelet and dark matter possibility. Needless to say we are always looking for energy routes without gammas . * The pre-fusion state, the deflated state, is not just redundant, but a degenerate state, one having the same sum of kinetic plus potential energy as the hydrogen in its normal environment. Yes, that is why I think spillover hydrogen, leading to IRH, is the key to all of this. The degenerate state may not be synonymous with IRH but there must be a connection. The heavy element LENR explanation is problematic due to no gammas as you are keenly aware. This could be rationalized if there were a few gammas over background, but when you look at the scope shot of Levi's very sophisticated meter in the Bologna demo - nada, zilch, none. (thanks to Peter for having Levi identify what was going on in that blowup video clip). Jones
