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On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > Let us generalize the discussion about the two catalysts involved in the > Rossi reaction in terms of there function requirements to see if a reaction > control mechanism can be derived. > > > > Let us get into the details on this point as follows: > > > > Under the assumption that the nuclear active area in the Rossi process is > within large numbers of nanoscopic crystal defects in catalyst N (for > nuclear) and catalyst C (for control) is somehow the controlling mechanism, > what can that mechanism be? > > > > The nuclear heat comes from catalyst N. To transfer that nuclear heat to > the stainless steel reaction vessel, the catalyst N must be in surface > contact with the wall of this stainless steel vessel. > > > > Adjusting the preheating input adjusts the power output of the reactor. How > can this be. > > > > The catalyst C must be in surface contact with the preheating input. The > catalyst C must not be in surface contact with the catalyst N since the > nuclear heat produced by catalyst N does not affect the catalyst C. > > > > There must be a space between the catalyst N and catalyst C and that space > is filled with hydrogen an insolating material. > > > > Catalyst C is a Mott insulator that produces electrostatic charge. This > charge increases as the temperature of catalyst C increases since the atomic > all distances in catalyst C increase with temperature. Catalyst C must also > be mounted on a material that can conduct input heat to catalyst C. > > > > When preheating input is applied to the catalyst C, its production of > electrostatic force increases. This force travels across the insolating gap > to the Catalyst N and increases the nuclear reaction. > > > > A decrease in the preheating input reduces the electrostatic force > impinging on the nuclear active areas in the catalyst N. This reduces the > nuclear reaction. > > > > Preheating input changes electrostatic force from 0 to 100%. This is the > adjusting mechanism. > > > > If the catalyst C and catalyst N were physically mixed the reaction would > be self sustaining. > > > > Reducing the pressure of the hydrogen increases the insulation value > between the catalyst N and the catalyst C thereby reducing nuclear activity, > since some small part of the nuclear heat travels across the insulation gap > from the catalyst N to the catalyst C thereby supplementing the preheating > input. > > > > What chemical compounds can catalyst C and catalyst N be. What catalyst is > associated with nickel and what element is associated with catalyst N (a > Mott insulator). Catalyst N must be highly porous with many nuclear > defects in its crystal structure and beside nickel only two other elements > are involved. One must be oxygen to form a Mott insulator. > > > > > > Catalyst N must be a element that can form a oxide with high levels of > defects in it crystal structure. All compounds must survive for years in a > hot hydrogen environment. > > > > I assumed that Iron was involved as a catalyst because of the reference to > US patent 20010024789 = Methods for generating catalytic proteins. > > > > On its face, this is a strange subject of interest for a nuclear reactor. > > > > But this is a standard method of producing Iron oxide catalysts of the form > Fe2O3. > > > > > http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20010024789.PGNR.&OS=DN/20010024789&RS=DN/20010024789 > > > > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> Axil, >> >> >> >> Ø >> >> Ø Loading hydrogen into Rust does not produce nuclear derived heat. >> >> >> >> Correct – it produce iron and water. I do not see Fe2O3 specifically as >> being involved at all in Rossi. >> >> >> >> FeO – however, when fully supported (shared oxygen) does make sense - but >> not Fe2O3. After all, the Swedes said iron in some form was there at a fair >> percentage, and they did sophisticated testing. >> >> >> >> Hydrogen reduction is one way that low carbon iron is processed from iron >> ore by the way. Iron ore is essentially rust. How to you propose to >> attenuate the reduction of rust inside the Rossi cell ? It could not last an >> hour. >> >> >> >> Having said that – your speculation about nickel oxide and copper oxide as >> Mott insulators does have merit, BUT ONLY when they are positioned to share >> their oxygen atom with the zirconia support. Otherwise they would be rapidly >> reduced also. In the same way, FeO is possible to be used as a catalyst - if >> and when supported on a dielectric, plus FeO is probably a Mott insulator. I >> don’t think rust qualifies at all, since it is fairly conductive. >> >> >> >> BTW – iron oxides of various levels have been used in tonnage as a bulk >> catalysts with hydrogen for a long time – that much is true. When used in >> the Haber process, the oxides are partially reduced ahead of time, and there >> is a competing oxidant present (nitrogen) which lowers the rate of full >> reduction to iron, but even so - catalyst must be replaced periodically and >> often, which is inconsistent with running a Rossi reactor continuously. Rust >> or magnetite was ideal in the original Haber process since it is more >> valuable when reduced, than as a refined ore. >> >> >> >> If there was to be any heat anomaly involving rust - we would have known >> about it long ago, as the ammonia industry is old, competitive and was a >> national priority 100 years ago. Every detail of Haber and its offshoots has >> been thoroughly analyzed. >> >> >> >> Jones >> >> >> >> >> > >
