Reality check time: One HP is about 700 watts. If Rossi has found a way to get multiple kilowatts of energy out of a 1 HP pump motor, while still drawing off enough energy to keep the water moving, I say more power to him.
That would be every bit as remarkable -- and valuable -- as getting multiple kilowatts of energy out of a nickel/hydrogen reaction. On 04/20/2011 06:12 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > * * > > One final point on how potential energy, in the form of a high flow of > water (l/sec) which comes from a one horsepower motor can be converted > into a significant amount of energy in any device that can involve > magnetostriction and/or cavitation. This is why you absolutely must > include the pump motor as input. > > > > Rothwell states (incorrectly) that it is "impossible to add measurable > *friction* with this equipment (these pipes and pumps), and if you > could somehow add it, they _would_ measure it.... > I really don't think Jed said that. I really don't think he ever discussed adding _friction_ to the system, whatever that might mean. (He may have talked about adding _heat_, but that's something else again.) (Cut and paste is valuable when quoting.... retyping is not always so good. That's sure not a direct quote of Jed, despite the quotation marks.) > It would be present before you turn the cell on, and after you turn it > off. It would not suddenly magically appear when you turn on the power > to the resistors." > > > > What he misses of course is the one place where he personally has seen > small gain -- the Griggs pump, and the cavitation effect. How ironic > in a way -- this is not friction per se, but it could be gainful. > > > > And as we have been taking recently, there is every reason to suspect > a magnetostriction effect on the nickel. It would be hard NOT TO HAVE IT. > > > > This magnetostriction could easily operate like ultrasonics to convert > pressurized high flow water into cavitation bubbles - and guess what > sports fans - they _would not_ measure it at the start. It would be > not be present before you turn the cell, on and after you turn it off. > It does not show up till the heater fires up ! > > > > It would in fact "suddenly magically appear when you turn on the power > to the resistors". Not only that, the cavitation itself could be > slightly OU (if Griggs is slightly OU). In effect the 1 hp of > pressurized water flow - combined with a magnetostriction effect could > serve to convert the flow into kW levels of heat. This could be as > much as 20% of the heat seen. I doubt it is that high, but we cannot > rule out that it is even higher! > Well, we could rule it out, just possibly, if we were willing to admit that conservation of energy might play some role here. > > > It is too much of a coincidence that the reactor loses it effect at a > temperature which coincides with the Curie point of nickel; not to > mention that the "resistors" have a magnetic field. > > > > Jones > > > > > > > > > > >
