Out of that 9m of hose, at least half is lying flat on the floor. That results 
in:
1) condensation forming a layer of liquid water that runs the entire length of 
that segment of hose,
2) the vapor must travel over that lquid water for that entire length
3) the floor itself could be sinking a significant amt of heat from the hose

Its pretty much useless to try to use steam flow out the hose to estimate heat 
output...

-Mark


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From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-Cat vs. Water Heater for coffee/tea...

At 02:58 PM 6/23/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
>But still, you've identified a way the steam could be dry and still 
>pinned to the boiling point. Unfortunately, evidence that it *is* dry 
>is still absent. And in the Krivit video, the feeble puff of steam at 
>the output is pretty good evidence that most of the liquid does not 
>change phase.

Not actually. There will be reduction in steam output due to cooling in the 
hose. It's to be
expected. The question is how much. And I'm suspicious of all the ad-hoc 
calculations. The whole
point of a conclusive demo is to make such calculations as simple as possible

Basically, assume 750 W of input power, how much steam would be expected *at 
the end of a three
meter hose* like that. My sense is, not a whole lot! My guess is that we might 
not see anything
except a little mist.

But it's a guess. 

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