At 08:50 PM 7/5/2011, Rich Murray wrote:
MISTer Joshua Cude, you are, as always, right...
No evidence at all for excess heat production...
From "defective evidence" to "no evidence" is a leap.
I just looked over the Kullander and Essen report, and what I see is
that some assumptions were made. Those assumptions might be true,
actually. What the actual data shows, however, is a heat anomaly that
appears when the cooling water reaches 60 degrees C. The rate of
increase shifts to an increased value that shows roughly doubled heat
generation over input power.
They appear to be correct that the water would not boil if not for
increased heat, though that is not a definitive showing, the heat
curve looks like that, and the input power would not be enough to
heat the apparent inplut flow more than 40 degrees, taking it to 60 degrees.
But that, again, depends on assumptions about input water flow, which
wasn't nailed down.
Evidence is not proof, Rich.
What's confusing some people, such as Jed, and then others debating
with Jed, is that Jed claims confidential information regarding
Defkalion and other matters, that leads him to conclude that the
Rossi results are real. That's evidence for him and not for us.
How much we want to believe his conclusions is a matter of personal judgment.
For myself, I look at Defkalion and I see what looks like management
describing what their engineers have told them is possible. How much
of this has been actually realized is unclear. Jed claims that there
has been extensive testing, but we don't have confirmation on that,
AFAIK, from the actual testing agencies. And what, exactly, was
tested is not clear.
3 PM, March 27, 2011: We have operated ten devices supplied by
Defkalion for three weeks, now, and they have not blown up, nor do
they show any signs of impending failure. The devices did not exceed
the rated external temperatures.
Memo from the Director of Safety Testing: Did you measure the generated heat?
Response from testing technician: No, of course not, that wasn't in
the test specification. We did not see any explosions. We plugged
them in to the power strip, added external temperature sensors, left
the room, and then turned on the power. You want us to do something else?
Memo from Director. No. Never mind. I was just curious.
Report: Defkalion device passes safety tests, per specification 38026-D.
