Rossi has a US Patent application: <http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20110113&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=2011005506A1&KC=A1>
Ron --On Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:38 PM -0500 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mary Yugo <maryyu...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, I think most experts would say they do. That I would like to know more about. It should be easy to show -- add the catalyst and get evidence for a nuclear reaction namely neutrons and/or radiation. This test will not work. Cold fusion does not produce neutrons and it seldom produces radiation. I have told you that before. If you do not believe me, please review the literature on your own. I think most readers here are familiar with the literature. Please do not make assertions about cold fusion that all readers here know to be incorrect. This is not a beginner's forum. Beginners should read the introductory papers by Storms at LENR-CANR.org, or the first chapter of my book. Run the same way without the catalyst and the evidence of nuclear reaction disappears. Someone has done that? Can you provide a link or citation? Of course. Hundreds of researchers have done that. Typically they run Pt instead of Pd, or H instead of D (with Pd). If you did not know that, you need to read the literature. Please avoid trying to read my mind. I would be totally, completely and unequivocally delighted if cold fusion turns out to be feasible and substantial. I doubt that. Every expert I know -- except for Britz -- who has looked carefully at the evidence was convince that cold fusion is real. You say it is not real. It is difficult not to read your mind. You almost force me to suppose: You are no expert despite the fact that you say you have worked with calorimeters. I doubt that. OR You refuse to look at the evidence, despite all the effort you put into writing these messages and campaigning against cold fusion on the Internet. It seems extraordinary to me that someone who expends so much effort on the subject knows practically nothing about cold fusion. In this very message you claim that cold fusion produces neutrons and radiation, even though I have told you many times that they do not. Either you are being disingenuous or you cannot bring yourself to study or remember anything about this subject, even the ABC's that have been common knowledge for 22 years! A person who spends years writing about something yet who does not know the first thing about it in denial. Strongly in denial. That is a sign of a person who does not want to know. Who cannot face facts. That is not characteristic of someone who would be "delighted" to be proven wrong. If you were the least bit delighted at that prospect, you would read the literature to find out if there is some tantalizing hope the claims might be true. You would acquire some basic knowledge of the phenomenon. Instead, you are aggressively ignorant, to the point where you repeatedly ask questions about things that everyone knows. Robert Park is the same way, by the way. He brags to people that he has never read a single paper on cold fusion. I am sure he has read nothing, because his books and his columns about it are grossly ignorant. I am not aware that Park has done what you accuse him of. I do not accuse him of anything! He brags about doing these things. To large crowds of people at the APS. He bragged about it to me, in person. He publishes columns in the Washington Post accusing cold fusion researchers of being criminals, lunatics and frauds. Perhaps he is not as ruthless as he claims to be. Perhaps he did not actually destroy as many lives and "root out" as many scientists as he claims. I know he managed to root out some, and I am sure he would love to nail them all. But in any case, I am not accusing him of anything; I am telling you what he says. If you do not believe me, read his columns, or the WaPost, or ask him yourself. When he realizes that he himself should have been "rooted out" decades ago, I expect he will be devastated. Any idea why anyone would do that? Are you asking why Park "roots out" cold fusion researchers? As I mentioned, in his newspaper columns and speeches he says he roots them out because they are criminals, lunatics and frauds. I suppose he sincerely believes that. I take his statements at face value. But as I said, ask him. It makes no sense and I tend to doubt it. You tend to doubt that Park said what he said? It is right there in the WaPost! Maybe he is beginning to have doubts . . . but in the past, he loved to attack cold fusion. As for destroying reputations, nothing restores them more than a few good experiments with convincing results and reliable data subject to replication by others. That is nonsense. Hundreds of impeccable, irrefutable cold fusion experiments have been published and replicated. That has had no effect on public opinion. Park says he will never read any of those papers because he is sure they are nonsense, lies and fraud. That's what he told McKubre, and me. Heck, you have not read them, or you have forgotten everything they say. When Park, or the people at the DoE refuse to look at the evidence, they cannot be swayed. The history of science and technology is chock full of people who refused to look. There are none so blind as those who will not see. - Jed
