If it is true, then it is a case of scientific fraud and industrial spionage. If its untrue and they all collaborate behind the scenes, then ist is a gigantic staged investment fraud. In both cases it is a case for Interpol.
For now I think they are all gangsters working together behind the scenes until something else is proven. This case could have been avoided. Rossi could easily claim priority if he had done a conclusive irrefutable calorimetry test, e.g. a realworld heating application that was measured by scientists and trustable witnesses. He had serious proposals and offers enough. Peter ----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat <aussieguy.e...@gmail.com> An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 29.11.2011 13:22 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula? > Others have openly admitted in trying to get a spectrum. And joked about > it how Rossi got angry at them for trying it on. Like it had no value. > Almost suggesting Rossi had no right to withhold it from science. If > true I do hope he sues the University and all involved for everything > they have. If proven it may well be the biggest theft in the history of > science, at least as far as I know. Most academics I know of have no > real sense of commercial value or commercial confidentiality. They live > in a world where you publish or perish. That is my personal experience. > > AG > > On 11/29/2011 10:31 PM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: > > If this is true they are gangsters and Rossi has my full support. > > And also at University of Siena they have gangsters, if this is true. > > This doesnt shed a good light on their previous work for Piantelli. > > Possibly they are all gangsters, and this all is a horrible soap opera. > > Could be, nothing is true and nothing works and they want to spread > rumours. > > > > I wonder what they really will announce tomorrow. > > My prediction is, they announce a revolutianry product that will be > presented soon. > > Or they announce they got the process now running with a stable COP, what > Miley announced 1996 and announced it 2011 again. ;-) > > All serious cold fusion companies do this from time to time, some do it > succesful for 20 years now. > > > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Nachricht ---- > > Von: Akira Shirakawa<shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com> > > An: vortex-l@eskimo.com > > Datum: 29.11.2011 12:14 > > Betreff: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula? > > > >> Hello group, > >> > >> Have a read at this article posted today on NyTeknik. It's about the > >> backstage of tomorrow's Defkalion Announcement: > >> > >> http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3353181.ece > >> > >> A short excerpt: > >> > >>> ?Let?s say I have the formula of Rossi, but I?m not saying it > officially. > >> My scientists found a way to make it. They need three months.? > >>> That is what Alexandros Xanthoulis, representative of Defkalion?s > owners, > >> told Ny Teknik in a telephone conversation on August 5, 2011. > >>> ?I know what he?s got in the reactor, I know everything. It was a > >> spectroscopy made by the University of Siena. (...) They tried his > reactor > >> without him understanding what they did,? he continued. > >> > >> It's quite interesting, to say the least, that the University of Siena > >> was involved in this, assuming what Xanthoulis said is true. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> S.A. > >> > >> > > > >