If it is true, then it is a case of scientific fraud and  industrial spionage.
If its untrue and they all collaborate behind the scenes, then ist is a 
gigantic staged investment fraud.
In both cases it is a case for Interpol.

For now I think they are all gangsters working together behind the scenes until 
something else is proven.
This case could have been avoided.
Rossi could easily claim priority if he had done a conclusive irrefutable 
calorimetry test, e.g. a realworld heating application that was measured by 
scientists and trustable witnesses. He had serious proposals and offers enough.
 
Peter

----- Original Nachricht ----
Von:     Aussie Guy E-Cat <aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>
An:      vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum:   29.11.2011 13:22
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?

> Others have openly admitted in trying to get a spectrum. And joked about 
> it how Rossi got angry at them for trying it on. Like it had no value. 
> Almost suggesting Rossi had no right to withhold it from science. If 
> true I do hope he sues the University and all involved for everything 
> they have. If proven it may well be the biggest theft in the history of 
> science, at least as far as I know. Most academics I know of have no 
> real sense of commercial value or commercial confidentiality. They live 
> in a world where you publish or perish. That is my personal experience.
> 
> AG
> 
> On 11/29/2011 10:31 PM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
> > If this is true they are gangsters and Rossi has my full support.
> > And also at University of Siena they have gangsters, if this is true.
> > This doesnt shed a good light on their previous work for Piantelli.
> > Possibly they are all gangsters, and this all is a horrible soap opera.
> > Could be, nothing is true and nothing works and they want to spread
> rumours.
> >
> > I wonder what they really will announce tomorrow.
> > My prediction is, they announce a revolutianry product that will be
> presented soon.
> > Or they announce they got the process now running with a stable COP, what
> Miley announced 1996 and announced it 2011 again. ;-)
> > All serious cold fusion companies do this from time to time, some do it
> succesful for 20 years now.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Nachricht ----
> > Von:     Akira Shirakawa<shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com>
> > An:      vortex-l@eskimo.com
> > Datum:   29.11.2011 12:14
> > Betreff: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?
> >
> >> Hello group,
> >>
> >> Have a read at this article posted today on NyTeknik. It's about the
> >> backstage of tomorrow's Defkalion Announcement:
> >>
> >> http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3353181.ece
> >>
> >> A short excerpt:
> >>
> >>> ?Let?s say I have the formula of Rossi, but I?m not saying it
> officially.
> >> My scientists found a way to make it. They need three months.?
> >>> That is what Alexandros Xanthoulis, representative of Defkalion?s
> owners,
> >> told Ny Teknik in a telephone conversation on August 5, 2011.
> >>> ?I know what he?s got in the reactor, I know everything. It was a
> >> spectroscopy made by the University of Siena. (...) They tried his
> reactor
> >> without him understanding what they did,? he continued.
> >>
> >> It's quite interesting, to say the least, that the University of Siena
> >> was involved in this, assuming what Xanthoulis said is true.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> S.A.
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> 

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