No, don't have access to a workshop at the moment (I'm on wrong side of the planet). Besides which I get the feeling that it is very very difficult to do material processing and calorimetry to the standards required to actually learn anything without access to a good materials lab and a well equipped calorimetry station.
I do have recent experience of small scale high pressure hot hydrogen systems (200bar 800°C Stirling engines) which is why I am so wary. The test fixtures and instrumentation were expensive and needed a lot of attention to detail, it is a tricky field for casual amateurs to work in and does not reward risk takers or improvised fixes. On 20 December 2011 20:01, Peter B <ddc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Robert I appreciate your advice > Are you building ? > > > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:23:20 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Phen formula from ecatbuilder.com > > From: robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com > > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > > > > > Things to consider: > > 1/ Probably want to make sure that the hydrogen you are being supplied > > is a reasonably high purity 'technical' grade. > > 2/ Most researchers use multi-stage vacuum pumps to achieve high > > vacuum, you probably want to buy a 2-stage vacuum pump such as used by > > HVAC technicians (you need high vacuum to evaporate and remove some of > > the contaminants you are trying to remove). > > 3/ Keep all of your valves, connectors, joints, seals, and > > feed-throughs away from hot areas in the test vessel. > > 4/ Do some reading on handling hydrogen. Hot pressurised hydrogen is > > dangerous - exceptionally flammable and explosive. Best to do > > experimenting in covered outdoors area where hydrogen can't > > accumulate, and use small tubes that don't permit too much flow. Keep > > hydrogen tank under cover and outside. > > 5/ Calorimetry is hard. It takes a lot of detailed effort to get good > > results when you are looking for small gains - and you won't be able > > to tell if anything is happening without it. You need a data > > acquisition system with at least 3 thermocouples for this work. > > > > > > On 20 December 2011 06:53, Peter Brosnan <ddc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks Ron and Hoyt . I appreciate your help and Yes after phone calls > , > > > Hydrogen tank $90 at 2000 psi > > > > > > Have to rent the tank and ordering Regulator as we speak > > > > > > Can buy a Vacum pump 1.5 cfm $90 or > > > > > > 6.0 cfm $150 > > > > > > Anybody understand if the 1.5 would be enough ? > > > > > > Intend to follow Phens formula first > > > > > > Anybody here experimented with what he stated ? > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:18:38 -0700 > > >> From: prot...@frii.com > > > > > >> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > > >> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Phen formula from ecatbuilder.com > > >> > > >> I think you can buy it in a pressurized tank with a regulator from gas > > >> suppliers. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:53 AM +1000 Peter Brosnan > > >> <ddc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Hi Guys , Pete from Australia here , I just found your site and > joined > > >> > up . I got interested in > > >> > Phen as well > > >> > > > >> > Phen talks about "The chamber is pressurized with hydrogen to 2000 > psi > > >> > and heated to 200 C " > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I'm trying replicate this stuff, got some of the gear here already > , the > > >> > rest is coming . > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The Hurdle is how do I pressureize my H2 at 2000 psi . Most of the > Gas > > >> > compressor I've seen > > >> > are $5000 + ( To rich for my blood ) > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > One guy I read adapted his frigeration compressor for 600 psi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Any ideas guys > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Thanks Pete > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > __________________________________________________ > > >> > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:05:44 -0200 > > >> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Private information" about Rossi was the > Ampernergo > > >> > tests described by McKubre > > >> > From: besantos1...@gmail.com > > >> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > > >> > > > >> > Yugo... must be serbian! (or croatian...slovenian...macedonian...) > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Just kidding. :-) > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > No matter what, I like your skepticism. Even though, to me, it > seems to > > >> > be a lot of evidences > > >> > pro-CF, it helps keeping our feet on the ground. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > 2011/12/19 Mary Yugo <maryyu...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Giovanni Santostasi > > >> > <gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Jed, > > >> > I'm not sure what is the ethnic origin of Mary. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Sorry, not Italian. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >
