Thanks Robert       I appreciate your advice Are you building ?

> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:23:20 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Phen formula from ecatbuilder.com
> From: robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> 
> Things to consider:
> 1/ Probably want to make sure that the hydrogen you are being supplied
> is a reasonably high purity 'technical' grade.
> 2/ Most researchers use multi-stage vacuum pumps to achieve high
> vacuum, you probably want to buy a 2-stage vacuum pump such as used by
> HVAC technicians (you need high vacuum to evaporate and remove some of
> the contaminants you are trying to remove).
> 3/ Keep all of your valves, connectors, joints, seals, and
> feed-throughs away from hot areas in the test vessel.
> 4/ Do some reading on handling hydrogen.  Hot pressurised hydrogen is
> dangerous - exceptionally flammable and explosive.  Best to do
> experimenting in covered outdoors area where hydrogen can't
> accumulate, and use small tubes that don't permit too much flow.  Keep
> hydrogen tank under cover and outside.
> 5/ Calorimetry is hard.  It takes a lot of detailed effort to get good
> results when you are looking for small gains - and you won't be able
> to tell if anything is happening without it.  You need a data
> acquisition system with at least 3 thermocouples for this work.
> 
> 
> On 20 December 2011 06:53, Peter Brosnan <ddc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Ron and Hoyt . I appreciate your help and Yes after phone calls ,
> > Hydrogen tank $90  at 2000 psi
> >
> > Have to rent the tank and ordering Regulator as we speak
> >
> > Can buy a Vacum pump 1.5 cfm $90  or
> >
> >                                    6.0 cfm $150
> >
> > Anybody understand if the 1.5 would be enough ?
> >
> > Intend to follow Phens  formula first
> >
> > Anybody here experimented with what he stated ?
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:18:38 -0700
> >> From: prot...@frii.com
> >
> >> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> >> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Phen formula from ecatbuilder.com
> >>
> >> I think you can buy it in a pressurized tank with a regulator from gas
> >> suppliers.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:53 AM +1000 Peter Brosnan
> >> <ddc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Guys , Pete from Australia here , I just found your site and joined
> >> > up . I got interested in
> >> > Phen as well
> >> >
> >> > Phen talks about "The chamber is pressurized with hydrogen to 2000 psi
> >> > and heated to 200 C "
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I'm trying replicate this stuff, got some of the gear here already , the
> >> > rest is coming .
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The Hurdle is how do I pressureize my H2 at 2000 psi . Most of the Gas
> >> > compressor I've seen
> >> > are $5000 + ( To rich for my blood )
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > One guy I read adapted his frigeration compressor for 600 psi
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas guys
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Pete
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:05:44 -0200
> >> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Private information" about Rossi was the Ampernergo
> >> > tests described by McKubre
> >> > From: besantos1...@gmail.com
> >> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> >> >
> >> > Yugo... must be serbian! (or croatian...slovenian...macedonian...)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Just kidding. :-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No matter what, I like your skepticism. Even though, to me, it seems to
> >> > be a lot of evidences
> >> > pro-CF, it helps keeping our feet on the ground.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2011/12/19 Mary Yugo <maryyu...@gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
> >> > <gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Jed,
> >> > I'm not sure what is the ethnic origin of Mary.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, not Italian.
> >> >
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