On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It is not sufficient evidence, but it still can be interpreted as > evidence of nuclear reactions. > Your alternative doesn't persuade me that the heat produced is > worthless as evidence. As everyone knows, there are countless ways to > fake the results. Each alternative suggests places where evidence of > fraud might be found. In your thermal mass alternative you need to > look for evidence that he misrepresented the electrical input power. > Otherwise it is just an intellectual exercise. > Apparently the spam filter ate some of your responses-- sorry. From what was recovered, I received this answer but I am not sure what it specifically responds to so I hope it's reasonably evident: "I do not understand Harry’s objection. The electric power considered in the model is represented by the blue curve in the upper left diagram of http://i.imgur.com/SWbvW.jpg jpeg. This curve shows the exact data of the electrical power supplied to the ecat as reported by Lewan in his report http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3284962.ece/BINARY/. Is Harry saying that Lewan faked the data? By increasing their values? The diagram on the right shows the energy balance. The electricity consumption (blue curve) is almost twice the heat removed by the flow coming out from the ecat (red curve). The other 2 curves represent the energy stored in the metal screen (gray line) and that stored in the water of the ecat pool (green line). There is no need for any chemical energy! The model is very simple, as the ecat seems to be too.... *Occam docet. * The red curve in the energy diagram represents the integral of the red curve in the diagram of power and therefore includes the thermal energy removed by both the steam and the liquid. The thermal power removed was calculated on the basis of flows calculated from the model itself and shown in the diagram at the bottom left of the jpeg http://i.imgur.com/XAdrr.jpg. The outflow in the vapor phase was calculated by considering the enthalpy of dry steam. The outflow in the liquid phase begins when the ecat pool becomes full of water and is calculated based on the enthalpy of liquid. The thermal power associated with vapor outflow reaches a peak of 1800 W, right at the maximum in the curve of delta T measured on the secondary loop, shown on the bottom left diagram. The final peak in this last curve can be associated with the start of liquid outflow. Thus, we see that the curve of the secondary delta T follows accurately, qualitatively at least, the heat trend of the primary outflow calculated by the mathematical model." I have forwarded David's newest question. Sorry about the delays.