First, I have to say I am not sure Piantelli's observations are real.
Maybe he had faulty instruments. But, if he did see protons, and they
were from decaying neutrons (sequestered in some decay-attenuating niche),
then, he should have seen electrons (and probably some X-rays), I think.
But, recall, in Otto Reifenschweiller's experiments -
-- "Reduced radioactivity of tritium in small titanium particles"
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Reifenschwreducedrad.pdf
-- "Cold Fusion and Decrease of Tritium Radioactivity"
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Reifenschwcoldfusion.pdf
-- "About the possibility of decreased radioactivity of heavy nuclei"
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=512913
- he saw a suppression of both electron beta-particle and x-ray emissions.
In one of his papers (I'm not sure if it's in the above), he claims that
reduction is strongest when the titanium nano-crystals form colloidal
chains - which, I believe, can promote plasmon propagation. Maybe high
momentum plasma electrons can stop beta-particles, but not massive
protons.
Guenter points out that there's a lot of intramural squabbling, and that
perhaps several phenomena coexist.
Maybe none exist.
or - maybe we are watching the Indian "Blind men and an elephant" story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant
Axil Axil wrote:
> If the proton was produced by free neutron decay, an electron would have
> also been produced. These electrons were not seen in the Piantellis cloud
> chamber. Could this mean that Piantellis reaction is different from the
> neutron centric Brillouin Energy systems reaction?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <pagnu...@htdconnect.com> wrote:
>
>> It would be interesting to know if some of these (and maybe other
>> "bursty")
>> phenomena were due to self-sustaining generation of micro-fractures -
>> i.e., some kind of tipping into a phase transition.
>>
>> Also, it would interesting to know if the protons seen long after energy
>> production stops in Piantelli's experiments are due to neutron decays.
>>
>> BTW, Godes of Brillouin has made some new remarks:
>>
>>
>> http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/robert-godes-of-brillouin-energy-comments-on-lenr-research/
>>
>> Axil Axil wrote:
>> > I am interested in the life after death phenomena as an indicator of
>> the
>> > possibility of multiple causes of cold fusion. Some systems show life
>> > after death and others do not; Rossi
yes, the Brillouin Energy
>> system
no.
>> > A
>> > single cause should show the same type of behavior.
>> >
>> > What does (Lattice Energy LLC) theory state in explanation of this
>> life
>> > after death behavior?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:42 AM, <pagnu...@htdconnect.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Lewis Larsen (Lattice Energy LLC) has posted a new presentation
>> entitled
>> >> -
>> >> "Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENRs)
>> >> New neutron data consistent with WLS mechanism in lightning" - at -
>> >> http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen
>> >>
>> >> He presents evidence that electrons and protons in
>> coherent/collective
>> >> motion on metal hydride surfaces, where e-m energy is highly focused,
>> >> can
>> >> form low momentum neutrons which initiate LENR events.
>> >>
>> >> Slides 18-20 ("Nucleosynthesis in exploding wires and lightning
>> I-III")
>> >> review the very old (1922) controversy between Wendt and Rutherford
>> on
>> >> whether large current pulses through tungsten wires could induce
>> >> transmutations. (See preprint: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0709.1222.pdf).
>> >>
>> >> Wendt, using intense current pulses of strongly inductively coupled
>> >> electrons, saw transmutations, whereas Rutherford, using a sparse
>> beam
>> >> of
>> >> uncoupled high velocity electrons, saw none. Rutherford's eminence
>> >> trumped Wendt's more modest reputation.
>> >>
>> >> Now, this cannot be a difficult, nor expensive, experiment to
>> reproduce
>> >> -
>> >> using Wendt's procedure, not Rutherford's.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone tried to reproduce it?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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