1. If a neutron can disappear into the vacuum, then: 1a. Can a neutron pop INTO this space (spontaneous formation)? 2. For every neutron that exits, does another enter this space (to balance things, remember CoE!)? 3. If either #1 or #1a are possible, and not #2, then CoE gets tossed out the window!
Altho, for all practical purposes, CoE would still appear to be intact, BUT, if we can optimize the popping out of existence within some object, and it happens often enough, then it would be possible to violate CoE within that object. Jones just opened a can of worms... and the feast begins! :-) -Mark _____________________________________________ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:29 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos) -----Original Message----- From: mix...@bigpond.com > They don't need to disappear into reciprocal space. This isn't about "need" Robin - it is about explaining results. Most of the time, of course, this kind of cooling reaction simply does not happen. Do you know of any other reports of anomalous cooling? > Hydrino molecules can quite easily disappear into ordinary space. They can > simply migrate through the atomic interstices of the container wall into the > atmosphere. Yes, of course ... at least if they are real - then that is probably true. But in that case there is only excess heat - not anomalous cooling. IOW, that will not explain a cooling effect, as you acknowledge, so why mention it? The Ahern results are beyond any possible chemical effect. The purpose of the posting was to present a possible rationale involving a new kind of fractional hydrogen reaction, where the assumptions are very different. Net cooling instead of heating. The common denominator seems to be simple - if neutrons can do this disappearing act, then virtual neutrons (maximum redundancy hydrogen) can possibly do the same. In neither case am I claiming it is anything more than a remote possibility. When I opined that there could be some kind of "momentum effect" what I meant was that in certain circumstances the entire sequence from atomic hydrogen to virtual neutron happens as one unstoppable progression, unlike the Mills' hydrino - which is a sequential chain of reactions which occurs in up to 137 steps. After all, this thread is merely the start of a new hypothesis, at this time - with which to explain new phenomena which previously was beyond explanation. Maybe it will not survive more accurate objections, but one cannot disqualify it easily by suggesting that another unproved presumption (Mills hydrinos operating in only one way) makes it not possible ☺ simply because Mills himself may have overlooked another feature of a broader phenomena. Jones