Who told you this? Somebody from DGT itself? Or someone else from the outside? Is this one of those hearsay again? And this person who told you this actually saw those devices or is he just speculating like the rest of us? Name Please? or does he prefer to be anonymous? LOL ...
Those pictures were definitely spark plugs. I've never seen glow plug like that before. The heating end of glow plugs are constructed differently. Could this be another attempt at misdirection? Jojo ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Higgins To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things! At the W&M ILENRS-12 symposium, I was told that what is used by DGT and is shown in their pictures were not spark plugs, but actually were glow plugs. I was also told that DGT was having reliability problems with these devices. If true, how does this change the thinking about what DGT is using to stimulate/quench their reaction to form it into controlled pulses? Bob On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote: Hey Gang, A while back, I was harping on the use of sparks for LENR reactors. I remember quite a vigorous exchange of ideas as to why sparks may be or may not be a critical component. There was discussion as to whether RF or sparks was the important thing. I was speculating that the temp. spike we find in DGT charts were the result of sparks firing and rapidly increasing the temp of the H2 and then rapidly dropping it again. I speculated that sparks was the mechanism for modulating the reaction rates in DGT's reactors. Well, after the publication of DGT's pictures of their reactors, we find not 1 but 2 spark plugs. But even with the evidence, we still had a few people here questioning the sparks. There was speculation that the spark plugs were being used to plug a hole only, and serve as a high pressure/high temp plug only; which to me was ludicruous as we find a host of other thermocouple connections that could serve the same purpose. Anyways, it turned out I was right about sparks being a critical ingredient. Then I harped on Rossi's rationale for shifting to a fat-Cat design. I speculated that this was Rossi's attempt to try to achieve more efficient and consistent spark delivery. I then continued on and speculated that this design was probably a CVD reactor in disguise. I speculated that the goal was to grow Carbon Nanostructures on a nickel substrate. Well, evidence seems to be accumulating on that front as well. We find out that nickel use was reduced to a few grams (consistent with nickel being used as growth catalyst for Carbon nanostructures. not as a metal lattice for hosting a NAE.) Then we found out his gen 2 reactors did not have hydrogen canisters anymore. (Consistent with using a hydrocarbon gas to grow Carbon Nanostructures and wth concurrent release of free hydrogen ions. as used in CVD reactors.) Then we find out high temp (>600c) operation, which was consistent with a NAE that is thermally stable. This is also the temp where CVD reactors work at. More importantly, this gen 2 Rossi eCats did not experience thermal runways. This is consitent with a reaction mechanism which was totally different from his earlier thermionic catalyst based reactor. So, evidence is mounting everyday regarding the use of Carbon Nanostructures. The point of this post is simply this. We here in the collective should try to focus on understanding this new mechanism, e.g. Carbon Nanostructure-based LENR - LENR2. Let's not waste our time discussing the theory, evidences, possibilities of older LENR paradigms such as FP, and others. LENR mechanisms are old, let's get on with LENR2. If we can get just half of the brain power in this collective to study LENR2, that would go a long ways in advancing the state of LENR research. Jojo -- Regards, Bob Higgins