At 11:08 AM 8/9/2012, ecat builder wrote:
There are many questions about Obama's past.
It is an indisputable fact that the "Long Form Birth Certificate"
posted on the <http://whitehouse.gov>whitehouse.gov web site
manipulated in photoshop. The moron who created the PDF forgot to
flatten all of the layers, so that anyone could go in an move
important parts of the document around, including the registrar's
stamp. What parts of the document are accurate, and why was it
altered at all? The state of HI uses a number of weasel words to say
he was born here without backing it up with an actual document.
No, the actual document was shown to the press. Printed on that
special paper. The clumsiness with the PDF actually shows naivete,
not sophisticated forgery, for sure. You don't think that the
President could access some sophisticated forgery skills if needed.
Look, anybody could have done "better."
People alter stuff to publish it. Happens all the time. I don't know
the provenance of the images people are looking at, what they went
through. But a visible change between that document and what is in
the Hawaii book would be easily discoverable, a really stupid
forgery, when the original exists and can be accessed with a court order.
A number of explanations are possible-- when Obama was adopted by
his Indonesian father, the birth certificate may have been modified
or altered, as is often the case with adoptions. The actual BC may
have been lost or destroyed.
Modified in a PDF file?
As is often the case with adoptions? No, this is ignorant. Birth
certificates are not altered for adoptions. There are additional
certificates that can be obtained, for various purposes, but they do
not contain false information. They might merely conceal some
information. The certificate that has been published is the long
form, which is a signed and attested document, attested by, in this
case, the mother and the attending physician.
I personally doubt Obama was born in Kenya, but Obama is hiding
something, or playing a strange game with millions of taxpayer and
campaign dollars. There have been dozens of lawsuits claiming he may
be ineligible that could be resolved (perhaps) with the presentation
of a birth certificate. All fail due to "lack of standing" but still
require hundreds of hours of court work.
Sure. And who is responsible for that. Ecat builder, Obama released
the long form. He had to go to special trouble to get that, the state
did not want to issue it. (They don't want to have to dig through
those archives.) It looks to me like the "birthers" have had some
success in confusing people about this.
A US military doctor had questions and tried to assure himself that
Obama was constitutionally eligible to hold office and ended up in
Leavenworth... Poor judgement on his part, but again, easily solved
had Obama not played hide-and-seek with his records.
The state certified the birth. That people doubted that is not the
fault of the state, nor of Obama. The doctor, I'm quite sure,
did not end up in Leavenworth merely because he tried to "assure himself."
Of course, Jojo makes a good point that having dual citizenship at
birth would make someone ineligible as "Natural Born Citizen", which
might explain O's reluctance to enter evidence into a court. The
constitution was written so that the president could not be a
commander from an invading country or have divided loyalties.
It's unclear why it was written the way it was. It was apparently a
last-minute change. Dual citizenship does not disqualify one from
being President. There is no precedent for that. It's something that
voters can consider.
As this author points out, the biggest question is Obama's story of
attending Occidental where he was a self-admitted pot-smoking bad
student.. how did he get in? Why does nobody remember him? Who paid
for his college? Was he enrolled as a foreigner? What were his grades?
<http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/>http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/
OMG. He admitted smoking pot? Now I really need to go out and
campaign for him. He was a bad student? What a success story, then!
Jed is not the only one who thinks that anyone who doesn't fawn over
Obama is a racist.
I haven't seen evidence for racism here. Just stupidity, which
apparently can exist among racists and non-racists. Though most
people are racist to one degree or other. That's quite another
discussion. The older, highly permicious racism is mostly dead,
afraid to show its face. But a more insidious racism still exists. If
you don't understand it, it's because you'e white.
That's a joke, though under the joke might be some truth.
Let me remind everyone about how most conservatives also didn't
like Carter, Clinton, and many were not fond of GW. We are equal
opportunity bashers of inept leadership and are quick to "eat our
own". But Obama does have a long and sordid past with communists
(Bill Ayres, Frank Marshal Davis) and was ranked the most liberal
Senator. He is aligned with the Democratic Socialists of America
and their offshoot, the New Party.
OMG, now I *really* need to get out and campaign for him.
(Anyone who is "communist" today is a certifiable nut case, pretty
much. I'm interested in people with open minds, and like, for
example, Ron Paul. Doesn't mean that I agree with him on this or
that, but he'd certainly have made a better President than our friend
Romney. Or Mcain.)
