yes we should keep archive, for a future Nuremberg Trial on Wikipedia...

same for peer-review, magazines, and other insults

2012/9/9 James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com>

> Part of the value of keeping an article from deletion is the history of
> edits doesn't disappear.
>
> A big part of my motivation in suggesting the use of Wikipedia as the
> basis for the Hutter Prize for Lossless Compression of Human Knowledge was
> the virulence of the editors of Wikipedia needs to be objectively
> analyzed.  When an article is distorted the editorial history tells a very
> important meta-tale.  When an article is deleted, their tracks are covered.
>
> I don't think it is any coincidence that the E-Cat article is up for
> deletion at this point in time.  I suspect its an attempt to delete the
> edit history -- or at least make it harder to go back and figure out what
> is really going on in a society that produces something like Wikipedia's
> virulent content.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Kelley Trezise <ktrez2...@ssvecnet.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>> Some time back I fought the battle of the E-Cat article on Wikipedia but
>> found it too frustrating and in the end even enfuriating as there are some
>> very tennatious editiors that really, really don't like cold fusion
>> articles in any way shape or form. Their obnoxious behavior have driven off
>> the more moderate people and as a result have had their way and have
>> written a very twisted article.
>>
>> Here is a paragraph from the article that portrays the involvement of
>> Hanno Essen, and Sven Kullander in the E-Cat as if they are passive
>> observers and not experimentalists that were actually involved in a test in
>> an active way:
>>
>>
>> "Swedish physicists, Hanno 
>> Essén<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanno_Ess%C3%A9n>
>>  and Sven Kullander<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sven_Kullander_(physicist)>
>>  stated that if the claims that they had read were true, then it has to
>> be a nuclear reaction. However the claims that they had read kept secret
>> the catalysts in Rossi's device. Kullander said it was important "to
>> consider the experimental facts and not indulge too much in speculation
>> about what could happen in theory". Saying measurements must be made
>> accurately and independently, which is not possible in this case, as "You
>> have to rely on Rossi that he is true to what he conveys and through
>> discussions with him we may try to conclude how reliable the measurements
>> are."[27] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer#cite_note-26> [
>> 28] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer#cite_note-27>"
>>
>>
>>
>> How pathetic is that? I really can't understand why the administrators at
>> Wikipedia allow the abusive behavior of that gang but I have the impression
>> that those thugs have friends in the form of a few administrators.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please consider going to the article, read it and vote on its
>> truswothiness, objectivity, etc. at the bottom of the page.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please be honest
>>
>> Zedshort
>>
>>
>

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