yes we should keep archive, for a future Nuremberg Trial on Wikipedia... same for peer-review, magazines, and other insults
2012/9/9 James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> > Part of the value of keeping an article from deletion is the history of > edits doesn't disappear. > > A big part of my motivation in suggesting the use of Wikipedia as the > basis for the Hutter Prize for Lossless Compression of Human Knowledge was > the virulence of the editors of Wikipedia needs to be objectively > analyzed. When an article is distorted the editorial history tells a very > important meta-tale. When an article is deleted, their tracks are covered. > > I don't think it is any coincidence that the E-Cat article is up for > deletion at this point in time. I suspect its an attempt to delete the > edit history -- or at least make it harder to go back and figure out what > is really going on in a society that produces something like Wikipedia's > virulent content. > > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Kelley Trezise <ktrez2...@ssvecnet.com>wrote: > >> ** >> Some time back I fought the battle of the E-Cat article on Wikipedia but >> found it too frustrating and in the end even enfuriating as there are some >> very tennatious editiors that really, really don't like cold fusion >> articles in any way shape or form. Their obnoxious behavior have driven off >> the more moderate people and as a result have had their way and have >> written a very twisted article. >> >> Here is a paragraph from the article that portrays the involvement of >> Hanno Essen, and Sven Kullander in the E-Cat as if they are passive >> observers and not experimentalists that were actually involved in a test in >> an active way: >> >> >> "Swedish physicists, Hanno >> Essén<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanno_Ess%C3%A9n> >> and Sven Kullander<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sven_Kullander_(physicist)> >> stated that if the claims that they had read were true, then it has to >> be a nuclear reaction. However the claims that they had read kept secret >> the catalysts in Rossi's device. Kullander said it was important "to >> consider the experimental facts and not indulge too much in speculation >> about what could happen in theory". Saying measurements must be made >> accurately and independently, which is not possible in this case, as "You >> have to rely on Rossi that he is true to what he conveys and through >> discussions with him we may try to conclude how reliable the measurements >> are."[27] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer#cite_note-26> [ >> 28] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer#cite_note-27>" >> >> >> >> How pathetic is that? I really can't understand why the administrators at >> Wikipedia allow the abusive behavior of that gang but I have the impression >> that those thugs have friends in the form of a few administrators. >> >> >> >> Please consider going to the article, read it and vote on its >> truswothiness, objectivity, etc. at the bottom of the page. >> >> >> >> Please be honest >> >> Zedshort >> >> >