You want to test the Hydrobetatron/Athanor ? as Jed repeated, good LENR experiment are expensive, and the calorimetry is so difficult that many mainstream team failed even to make good enough one.
Few researchers have really tested the LENR, and now they are believers, thus nobody trust them. See Robert Duncan (Uni Missouri), Celani, Dawn D Dominguez(spawar) doing the experiment yourself will make the high risk of error, higher than the risk of peer review result... moreover there is hundreds of very good experiments, with different protocols, having very different potential artifacts, with coherent correlations found ... Rather believe in UFO conspiracy (sorry for the UFOist here). just for curiosity, can you build a theory of the reason why so many team. a precise one, with explanation of all the results ? I mean, the thousands of loose experiments, and the 180 good results, the dozens of peer review one, the replicated and the non replicated, the electrolysis, the co-deposition, the gas permeation, the NiH nanostrutured materials, the isoperibolic calorimetry, the isothermal calorimetry, the gaz permeation rough calorimetry... then could you give credible explanation why a canadian economist can jump on a fraud scheme launched by an italian, joined by a big board of director, with an engineer team, of people who give their name in public, one even working for a university... you have to disprove all of that evidence to disprove LENR. ALL. you can use wildcard arguments, but positively, not easy excuses. and also explain why it was so frequent (bad luck, correlation of risk, bias...). NB: this is what I'm doing every time someone repeat the stupidities based on obsolete and false data that I read, because when I read critics, I cannot ignore them... And each time, I fail to reach a credible scenario for non-existent LENR. same for the LENR businesses, where fraud is not credible, even if the high probability scenario will be that the industrial will be late, as usual (see last Hydrofusion press release), and some can even fail to reach the market. I've also noticed that people here are much more skeptical than me, and after discussing with a professional innovator, I realize that I was even much more skeptical than professionals. LENR have a huge database of proofs,(peer review, not reviewed, circumstantial) much better than Higgs boson, and many officially accepted theory or databases todays. because LENR is not a theory, but a phenomenon. Note also that the theory that there is a pathologic consensus against is so blatant that not considering it is a sign of a BIG PROBLEM. Benabou effect theory is thousands more credible (even if not absolutely confirmed) than your group fraud theory. 2012/9/10 Jouni Valkonen <jounivalko...@gmail.com> > On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com> wrote: > > we need to have rock-solid statements to answer the hyper-skeptics. > > Rock-solid answer would be that anyone could go their local university and > do the necessary measurement by himself. With Miley's and Celani's cells > this kind of situation would be trivial to arrange. I can personally > sponsor demonstration set to the University of Turku, Finland. > > We do not need statements, we need rock-solid evidence. The problem is > that there is no good evidence presented to support the claims, but there > are just statements that are in science next to worthless. > > --Jouni >
