Jouni,

 

               It is a neo Lorentzian ether that I posit not a classical
stiff medium that ignores an extra dimensional intersection of ether with
our plane. This posit also makes the speed of light and our system of
metrics into a blind man's cane used because we are trapped in 3d  inertial
frames while the ether which passes thru our frames from a 4th dimension
decides which WSM is the right shape to remain physical - trapped in our
plane while the rest of the virtual particle stream rushes past imparting
energy  equally in all 3 directions such that it is not exploitable other
than to establish ground states and gas motion -  it becomes our clock in
the physical world and regardless of the actual "rate" that it passes thru
our plane "we" inside the plane will always experience it as what we refer
to as C - a true preferred frame wouldn't be a "frame" at all but rather a 4
dimensional being who could somehow actually observe time and space morphing
between different frames.. and this may be the religious aspect Mauro and
ChemE were discussing.. a sort of Deep Space temporal being that has
difficulty communicating with the linear time inhabitants [us] or who always
were and always will be to borrow a biblical expression or the ocaasic tree
from Wicca where all knowledge grows on a tree which would be how our linear
existence would appear from a temporal perspective . so perhaps dying in 3D
is only completing a branch that remains forever a structure with a non
linear sentinence -perhaps we are just a necessary facet to introduce change
into that otherwise unchanging dimension.

 

Fran

 

 

Re: [Vo]:Why is M&M considered a disproff of Ether?

Jouni Valkonen
Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:58:02 -0700

There are two kinds of ethers.

 

First: the classical ether is extremely stiff medium where light waves are

propagating, similarly like sound waves are propagating in a water. It must

be hugely stiff, because the speed of light is depended on the stiffness

and the speed of light is quite remarkable.

 

There is slight problem that if ether as stiff that it allows the speed for

light to be 300 Mm/s, then how on Earth there can be inertial movement

around the sun! And if ether does not interact with regular matter, then

how come we can see the light that is pressure waves propagating through

ether?

 

Luckily this classical ether was refuted by Einstein and his (with little

help from Planck) invention of quantum theory that pointed out that

actually photons are quantum particles, not waves. And as they are

particles, no ether as medium for light waves is required.

 

 

Second: The other kind of Ether is Newton's fixed background or preferred

frame of reference. Einstein developed this idea even further when he

showed with general relativity that actually ether is not fixed, but the

gravity can modify the geometry of absolute frame of reference.

 

Einstein himself called correctly his general relativity as ether theory as

it is based on a idea of an absolute frame of reference.

 

 

In some other instances I have promoted Lorentz's theory of relativity.

That is similar ether based kinematic theory as general relativity is for

accelerating frame of references. That is, the kinematic motion in

Lorentz's theory of relativity is always measured in respect of ether and

if we choose Earth's gravity field as preferred frame of reference, then

this interpretation agrees with every empirical observations so far.

 

Although Lorentz's theory of relativity is ether theory, it has not

been disproved and it happily agrees with M&M experiment and all the time

dilation observations. Therefore this latter kind of ether, where ether or

preferred frame of reference is Earth's gravity field, is not refuted.

 

-Jouni

 

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