I guess my comment is biased heavily toward my pet theories regarding geometry and only regarding a low powered visible example of the effect- not something that could ever heat your home. If special isotopes are required as Jones' suggest then of course we aren't going to find them at Wall Mart, but, if milling geometry and zero point considerations happen to be at the heart of this effect then the possibility of home milled powders and materials goes way up.. I have always suspected a geometrical link between pyrophoricity and these anomalies where hot coals put ambient gases very close to combustion levels that become concentrated when gas flow is increased in a parallel way to that by which LENR+ seems to occur with gas loading into and out of the lattice. If I had the lab equipment I would love to mill nickel and possibly Tungsten in an inert glove box and then keep the powder permanently mixed with either inert gas or mixed with percentages of hydrogen while being simultaneously heat sunk.. perhaps an upside down "reactor bowl" under liquid to trap the desired atmosphere while providing heat sinking... my thought being that the geometry is far more capable than we suspect but being constantly torn down by nature at the nano scale before ever achieving these anomalous effects we only see in a stunted short lived effect when conditions are just right..activating without oxygen in situ.. I suggest that preventing combustion in a super catalytic environment can discount disassociation of H2 to the point of OU and serve as the bootstrap energy for the nuclear effects others are researching.... I don't think this violates COE but rather that COE falsely implies that HUP can never be exploited while Casimir geometry is providing the loophole to that rule .. The radioactive half life anomalies suggest the normal cancellation of gas motion/ HUP is being biased spatially.. I am convinced that the individual radioactive gas atoms never experience any change in half life from their own local perspective but rather become accelerated in a negative inertial frame from our perspective [we slow down like the paradox twin near C], This Pythagorean relationship between "it's" spatial frame and ours outside the suppression geometry is what I posit can allow HUP to be exploited.. a sort of self assembling Maxwellian demon that can differentiate h1 from H2 by opposing motion of one more than the other between different suppression/inertial zones.
Fran From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 2:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial Roarty, Francis X <francis.x.roa...@lmco.com<mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>> wrote: The funny thing about your comment is that you just know 30 minutes after someone finally nails the working principle behind these effects that they really will "Mcgiver" together a working example out of off the shelf products at Wall Mart. .. :_). I doubt it. Here are some mass produced devices similar to a cold fusion cell. An ordinary person at home cannot make them with off-the-shelf components: NiCad battery Computer CPU chip Catalytic converter Fuel cell I expect that cold fusion will always call for precision manufacturing, pure metals and clean, automated production lines. - Jed