For the record: Jed wrote: 

"Whether these people are experts or not I'm sure the Association reviewed
their work carefully before issuing a statement. I do not think it takes
long for an electrical engineer to conclude that there is no possibility of
fraud in these tests."

You've read their report, Terry, and you are an EE. And you would, based on 
what you read in the report and what Hartman and Essen said in interviews 
afterwards, sign a statement to the effect that "there is no possibility of 
fraud in these tests"??? Why would you do that? We know practically nothing 
about the input measurement apart from the fact that they used a PCE830 and 
that Hartman claims he lifted the controller from the table and couldn't see 
any extra cables. Is that enough for you?



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 Von: Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com>
An: Yamali Yamali <yamaliyam...@yahoo.de> 
CC: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" <vortex-l@eskimo.com> 
Gesendet: 18:46 Freitag, 31.Mai 2013
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:On deception
 

Well, I graduated from Georgia Tech in 1977 with an EE, am a
registered professional engineer and manage a group of mostly EE
consulting engineers and I agree with Jed.

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Yamali Yamali <yamaliyam...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
> Jed wrote: "I do not think it takes long for an electrical engineer to
> conclude that there is no possibility of fraud in these tests."
>
> I bet you won't find any EE with any experience in the business who would
> sign such a statement.

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