Yes Axil, your mind set has not changed either, still just as
unfocused on the subject at hand. I do not see how this issue can be
discussed when you cannot focus on the subject. The Lawson criterion
has absolutely no relationship to cold fusion. It only applies to hot
fusion. Apparently, you do not agree or understand, which makes
further discussion about cold fusion pointless.
Ed
On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
Hot fusion is a nuclear reaction in which two or more atomic nuclei
collide at very high speed and join to form a new type of atomic
nucleus of compressing matter to high temperatures at high densities
as defined by the to the Lawson criterion,
In nuclear fusion research, the Lawson criterion, first derived on
fusion reactors (initially classified) by John D. Lawson in 1955 and
published in 1957, is an important general measure of a system that
defines the conditions needed for a fusion reactor to reach
ignition, that is, that the heating of the plasma by the products of
the fusion reactions is sufficient to maintain the temperature of
the plasma against all losses without external power input. As
originally formulated the Lawson criterion gives a minimum required
value for the product of the plasma (electron) density ne and the
"energy confinement time" . Later analyses suggested that a more
useful figure of merit is the "triple product" of density,
confinement time, and plasma temperature T. The triple product also
has a minimum required value, and the name "Lawson criterion" often
refers to this inequality.
You are consistent at least; you had the same mindset as
demonstrated here when you described the LeClair experiment as some
other type of hot fusion.
The LeClair experiment is demonstrating a LENR reaction no matter
what LeClair thinks is causing it.
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Edmund Storms
<stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
If we cannot even agree about what the term LENR means or which
phenomenon it describes, I see no hope in arriving at any common
understanding. Please, can you make an effort to agree on some basic
ideas so that the discussion can move forward? We are dealing with
two different phenomenon. One uses high applied energy from various
sources and the other requires no applied energy. One results in
neutrons when deuterium is used, The other results in helium when
deuterium is used. Can you at least acknowledge that these two
different reactions occur?
Ed
On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
It seems to me that the reaction mechanism of the experiment
referenced in this thread is electrostatic in nature relating to
high voltage causation of fusion.
To draw a comparison, this is identical to the mechanism used in
the Proton-21 experimental series.
Since Proton-21 is considered a cold fusion or more properly termed
a LENR experiment, so to this referenced experiment should be
termed a LENR experiment.
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Edmund Storms
<stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
This paper makes the common mistake of mixing hot- and cold-fusion.
These are two separate and independent phenomenon. They are not
related except both are nuclear reactions involving fusion.
However, the conditions required for initiation and the nuclear
products are entirely different. As long as hot- and cold-fusion
are considered in the same discussion, no progress will be made in
understanding cold fusion.
Ed
On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:31 AM, David ledin wrote:
Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment
http://fire.pppl.gov/cyrstal_fusion_nature.pdf
