I am drawing a distinction between hot fusion and LENR in terms of the "Lawson criterion". Specifically, if a fusion reaction cannot be characterized in terms of plasma density, plasma confinement time and plasma temperature, then the reaction is LENR.
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hot fusion is a nuclear reaction in which two or more atomic nuclei > collide at very high speed and join to form a new type of atomic nucleus of > compressing matter to high temperatures at high densities as defined by the > to the Lawson criterion, > > In nuclear fusion research, the *Lawson criterion*, first derived on > fusion reactors (initially classified) by John D. Lawson in 1955 and > published in 1957, is an important general measure of a system that defines > the conditions needed for a fusion reactor to reach *ignition*, that is, > that the heating of the plasma by the products of the fusion reactions is > sufficient to maintain the temperature of the plasma against all losses > without external power input. As originally formulated the Lawson criterion > gives a minimum required value for the product of the plasma (electron) > density *n*e and the "energy confinement time" . Later analyses suggested > that a more useful figure of merit is the "triple product" of density, > confinement time, and plasma temperature *T*. The triple product also has > a minimum required value, and the name "Lawson criterion" often refers to > this inequality. > > You are consistent at least; you had the same mindset as demonstrated here > when you described the LeClair experiment as some other type of hot fusion. > > The LeClair experiment is demonstrating a LENR reaction no matter what > LeClair thinks is causing it. > > > > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > >> If we cannot even agree about what the term LENR means or which >> phenomenon it describes, I see no hope in arriving at any common >> understanding. Please, can you make an effort to agree on some basic ideas >> so that the discussion can move forward? We are dealing with two different >> phenomenon. One uses high applied energy from various sources and the other >> requires no applied energy. One results in neutrons when deuterium is used, >> The other results in helium when deuterium is used. Can you at least >> acknowledge that these two different reactions occur? >> >> Ed >> >> On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Axil Axil wrote: >> >> It seems to me that the reaction mechanism of the experiment referenced >> in this thread is electrostatic in nature relating to high voltage >> causation of fusion. >> >> >> To draw a comparison, this is identical to the mechanism used in the >> Proton-21 experimental series. >> >> >> Since Proton-21 is considered a cold fusion or more properly termed a >> LENR experiment, so to this referenced experiment should be termed a LENR >> experiment. >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: >> >>> This paper makes the common mistake of mixing hot- and cold-fusion. >>> These are two separate and independent phenomenon. They are not related >>> except both are nuclear reactions involving fusion. However, the >>> conditions required for initiation and the nuclear products are entirely >>> different. As long as hot- and cold-fusion are considered in the same >>> discussion, no progress will be made in understanding cold fusion. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:31 AM, David ledin wrote: >>> >>> Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment >>>> >>>> http://fire.pppl.gov/cyrstal_**fusion_nature.pdf<http://fire.pppl.gov/cyrstal_fusion_nature.pdf> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
