John, don't forget the " " around the line when googling to get exact phrase only!
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pen, googling it finds results but I have not found anything that are > saying the same things. > For instance lines such as 'animal magnetism doesn't exist', or some other > specific form of magnetism. > Or 'magnetism doesn't exist by your logic...' > > Harry, you lost me. But saying magnetism is an illusion created by > electric fields being unmasked by the distorting effects of motion is > certainly not saying motion is an illusion. > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:42 AM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:25 PM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Except for when I have written it, I have never seen the words >>> "Magnetism doesn't exist" written. >>> >>> But this confuses me because while the illusion of magnetism is pretty >>> convincing we can all agree the expected forces in any magnetic situation >>> are electric at each end (magnetic fields are created by and felt as >>> electric fields orthogonal to the claimed magnetic field). >>> And the expected so-called magnetic forces are predicted by the >>> distortion of motion on electric fields. >>> >>> Each and every magnetic force/induction from magnetism can be expected >>> by looking at how the electric fields are distorted through motion. >>> >>> And when I first figured that out, I thought it was just my idea, till >>> the good folks on this list many years ago pointed out that all of this was >>> known, that Special Relativity included precisely this. >>> >>> So given that the forces are expected without any magnetic field, just a >>> complete (and complex) analysis of electric fields distorting from motion >>> (vector sum analysis). >>> And given that magnetic fields are only created by moving charges and >>> only ever felt as a perpendicular electrical force. >>> >>> They why does no one else but me say "Magnetic fields do not exist!"?? >>> >>> >> This requires that motion also does not exist or is illusion. >> >> Harry >> >> Certainly they are a convincing and useful illusion. >>> Sure, holding 2 permanent magnets can make holding this belief very >>> hard, but but if the permanent magnets are replaced with electromagnets it >>> is easy to see how all the expected forces and induction occurs from the >>> moving electric fields pancaking, and the lines bending when feed AC. >>> >>> John >>> >> >> For >> > >
