On Mar 9, 2014, at 4:15 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>  
> Based on what little I have been able to comprehend, I get the sense that 
> that learning how to create appropriate surface topologies, (most likely at 
> the nano-scale) may ultimately turn out to play a crucial role in igniting 
> reliably consistent reactions.

That is where the action is, Steven. It is on the surface in nanosized sites. 
That location is in conflict with most explanations and is very hard to explore 
without suitable tools. 
>  
> If creating appropriate surface topologies is a key factor... I'm curious. Do 
> we currently possess appropriate technology that could, for example, allow us 
> to cut grooves and valleys in the target surface material on an appropriate 
> nano-scale?

Yes, this could be done several different ways and has been suggested. However, 
the tools require money to use. 

> I realize nano-scale means working with structures as small as at the atomic 
> scale. I know research labs have already proven we can nudge individual atoms 
> around on a surface, and even spell words. I get the sense that demonstrated 
> procedures of this nature are at present totally impractical, and certainly 
> not useful on an industrial scale.

Once the type, size, and location of the NAE is identified, making it on an 
industrial scale would not be a problem. 

> I have instead wondered if we might eventually learn to employ laser 
> technology to construct the correct kinds of surface topology to enhance the 
> CF/LENR effect – perhaps in a similar manner as how lasers are currently 
> being used to carve tiny micro pits onto the surface of CDs and DVDs. Using 
> laser technology in order to create CDs and DVDS is an example of a matured 
> technology. I’ve wondered if a similar “mature” technology might eventually 
> turn out to suit LENR objectives on a commercial scale as well.


Laser are useful for somethings but that is not the method I would recommend.

Ed Storms
>  
> Regards,
> Steven Vincent Johnson
> svjart.OrionWorks.com
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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>  
> From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 12:44 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Cc: Edmund Storms
> Subject: Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of 
> everything.
>  
> Good question, Steven. The answer is no. The reason for this answer comes 
> from the inability to identify and measure all the variables that influence 
> the LENR process. In fact, until recently I did not know which variables were 
> important.  I can now identify the important variables, but money is required 
> to use equipment necessary to see what is actually happening at the nano 
> level. 
>  
> LENR is complex and not consistent with how hot fusion behaves. 
> Unfortunately, the people who attempt to explain the effect have not 
> identified the correct variables. As a result, people have been wondering 
> aimlessly in the wilderness in search of the gold. A few people have found 
> nuggets by chance, but the main ore body is still hidden. Rossi is as close 
> as anyone to finding the main ore body, but he is not telling where his gold 
> outcrop is located. I'm trying to follow his trail.
>  
> Ed Storms
>  
>  
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 11:29 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
> 
> 
> From Jed:
>  
> ...
>  
> > Storms pre-tested 92 cathodes. He found 4 that passed all tests, and he ran
> > a full cold fusion experiment on those 4. They all produced robust heat
> > repeatedly. So, was that 92 tests, or was it 4? Was the success rate 4%,
> > or 100%? Those question are silly. It is what it is.
> > 
> > The effect has been reproduced many, many times. If it were any other
> > experiment, no one would express the slightest doubt that it is real.
> > That's all there is to it.
>  
> I apologize up front if this seems an ignorant question to ask at this late 
> hour, but did Storms learn enough about the unique makeup of the four 
> successful cathodes to acquire a fairly good idea as to how to go about 
> building new cathodes that would reliably, consistently, and repeatedly 
> generate excess heat 100% of the time?
>  
> I have no doubt that Storms has a goal of generating excess heat 
> consistently, reliably, and repeatedly a primary goal.
>  
> I’m also assuming securing adequate funding remains one of the major 
> impediments that continues to define the on-going CF/LENR saga for the past 
> quarter of a century.
>  
> Regards,
> Steven Vincent Johnson
> svjart.OrionWorks.com
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
> tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/
>  
>  

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