Just wanted to add one minor thought to the discussion. Could it be that the breaking up of the D into pieces might actually take energy from the system that is then added back by a relatively minor amount of more or less standard H reaction with nickel? The implications of such a process are strange indeed, but at least the energy output tracks with what Rossi has been producing.
I suppose that someone might point out that these guys favor using D instead of H as reactant gases. Perhaps the test cells varied in efficiency and the D cells won in this special case. This whole concept makes me wonder about the ability of nano particle heavy nickel to act as a catalyst to split apart D atoms. AFAIK, no one has reported such behavior in previous experiments. Is there reason to consider this particular experiment as being substantially different from previous ones where nickel was exposed to D? In other words, why now? I admit that I need the same break that Eric requests. Sometimes you must wait on the sidelines a bit longer than others before you get the call to enter the game. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 4:25 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough One other exotic possibility comes to mind, thinking about Ni-64. This nickel isotope appears to be unique in the periodic table, being the highest ratio of excess neutrons in a stable isotope, compared to the most common isotope of that element (36/30 = 12%) in nature. (hydrogen-deuterium does not qualify since H has no neutron) Not sure what that means, but when one finds an anomaly juxtaposed with a singularity - the two are unlikely to be the result of coincidence. There is not much of this isotope available ... OTOH there is more of it than there is U235 in natural U. _____________________________________________ Yes - even if plausible way exists in QM for converting deuterium to hydrogen with gain, that gain obviously does not derive from the mass of the deuterium, per se. This leaves these main possibilities, and a few others 1) vacuum energy (ZPE) 2) nickel mass via spin coupling 3) Mills version of redundant ground states It could be possible that all of these are entwined. -----Original Message----- From: Terry Blanton Axil wrote: They say that the data never lies; but wow, does LENR really get all or most of its energy from the vacuum? > I have always thought so. But, then, I have been a Puthoff fan-boy for ages. :-)