Dear James,

your definition is perfect, thanks

1) is irrelevant THIS technology implies money, a lot, in and out.

2) re patents, know-how I am speaking from practice. Rarely patents are
sold without know how.

Peter


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:35 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter, I agree with what you said with two exceptions:
>
> 1) Technology does not necessarily imply money.  There are huge amounts of
> open free technology -- particularly in software.
>
> 2) "skilled in the art" has a legal definition as a consequence of patent
> law's definition of "disclosure".  Although it is true that this must be
> "defined in each case" the legal definition is constant and is applied in
> case law.
>
> That said, I'd define, as the final stage:
>
> Technology, anyone who can afford it can use it.
>
> Folded into the word "afford" is not just money but the time it takes to
> follow the instructions.  Folded into the word "anyone" is the reasonable
> connotation that they are an adult competent to manage their own affairs.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear James
>>
>> I think this list is not complete:
>> *Technology*- anybody paying for it and respecting
>> some simple instructions can, use it.
>>  Unfortunately "skilled in the art" has to be defined
>> in each case.
>> Technology is much more than applied science.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:00 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We're at the magic stage.
>>>
>>> Science, anyone skilled in the art can reproduce it.
>>>
>>> Magic, only some skilled in the art can reproduce it.
>>>
>>> Religion, no one can reproduce it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Galileo Test cannot be one on the Ni/H reactor. Its design and
>>>> operating principles are top secret. We are at the religion stage currently
>>>> and the builders of the Ni/H reactors want to keep it that way for as long
>>>> as possible.
>>>>
>>>> When asked :"how does it work" the builders will then ask "you tell Me".
>>>>
>>>> LENR is not science, it is top secret project engineering.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Ian Walker <walker...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> On the matter of scepticism:
>>>>>
>>>>> No one is denying people the right to be scientifically sceptical of
>>>>> LENR but to be a sceptical scientist you must conform to the Galileo Test
>>>>> and put your eye to the telescope.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the radio reporter to speak out against a report that has not been
>>>>> published, is evidence that the reporter is engaged in religion not 
>>>>> science.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the radio reporter to further compound this with ad homonym
>>>>> attacks, is further evidence that the reporter is engaged in religion not
>>>>> science.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the radio reporter has read the publication of the first Third
>>>>> Party test report:
>>>>> http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913
>>>>>
>>>>> and reported on the first set of third party tests and then critiqued
>>>>> it at the time, the reporter did not, as others did and reported it in 
>>>>> main
>>>>> stream media as these and others did:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/20/finally-independent-testing-of-rossis-e-cat-cold-fusion-device-maybe-the-world-will-change-after-all/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/05/21/the-e-cat-is-back-and-people-are-still-falling-for-it/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-05/cold-fusion-machine-gets-third-party-verification-inventor-says
>>>>>
>>>>> Then that critique would apply to that report as part of valid
>>>>> scientific scepticism. The fact that the radio reporter did not report on
>>>>> the paper or critique it on scientific methodological grounds at the time,
>>>>> is evidence that the reporter is engaged in religion not science.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arguing, as the radio reporter is doing, that the second six month
>>>>> Third Party test, dealing with those critiques of the methodology of the
>>>>> first Third Party report should not be published, is to go against the
>>>>> fundamental principles of the scientific method:
>>>>>
>>>>>  In order to be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based
>>>>> on empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of
>>>>> reasoning.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the most damning evidence that those involved in the radio
>>>>> report are engaged in religion not science.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Experiment is king.
>>>>>
>>>>> To be scientifically sceptical you must conform to the Galileo Test
>>>>> and put your eye to the telescope.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards walker
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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