just a nasty question ... who opposed Cold Fusion research ? DoD,Navy ? Commercial/Military Nuke labs ? or rather : APS, AAAA, DoE, NYT, Swedish Public Radio, INFN, CERN, scientific journals...
was the aggression like commando and killing, or academic execution, insults, peer-review blocking, nasty biased articles and books, ... our society treat the academic like religious people in the traditional societies, thei mean they can do what they want without being punished, and they don't even feel guilty because they do the good, and the good is them. Scientific method, classic quantum physics, is probably absloutely respected and working in that story. what have been broken is: - academic - scientific press - mainstream press and scientific journalism - government advisors in scientific and engineering domain - theory as physicist imagine it is on the opposite : - scientific method - physics - chemistry - calorimetry - thermodynamic laws - business ability to fund research and developement (with many failures as usual) - inventors ability to develop application (with many failures as usual) are still unchallenged (until new evidence ). 2014-06-21 22:03 GMT+02:00 AlanG <a...@magicsound.us>: > Or another possibility: some men in black suits and mirror shades told > them "you can't publish this as written, matter of National, NATO, EU, > World security, top secret ( pick one or more). We will tell you what you > can say, and when, or else...and don't tell Rossi we were here". That's how > it would go in the novel anyway. > > AlanG > > > On 6/21/2014 9:32 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > > let us imagine the unimaginable... > It work. > > now, the swedish scientist have measured heat... positive. > they re mesure... delay...positive... > impossible. > so the look for nuclear ashes... delay... > interesting but uncmmon... > they remeasure... delay... > they prepare a paper a report... > since it is impossible all the review ask for more... delays... > new cross checking, DC ofset , alien conspiracy, inverted swpped clamps, > complicities, russian KGB, NSA manipulation... many things to chech, thus > delays... > the testers are accused by swedish public radio, by DoE, by INFN, APS, > CEA, SciAm, AAAA, La Recherche, nature, Science, to be accomplice, to be > scammer, deluded, ... > so they rewrite the paper with more check, ... delays... > > now imagine it does not work because Rossi is deluded > > the tester makes a test > it does not work > they ask him to explain... > he cannot... > they test another reactor... > it does not work... > they recheck.. nothing to say... > rossi's moan that the measurement is wrong... > they recheck... > after 3 weeks the scientist are convinced the 3 reactors are borke... > they write a paper... > rossi ask for correction. > they do the minimum. 2 weeks. > they publish the paper, warn Elforsk to stop defending that technology. > end of the story > > Now imagine rossi try to fool them (how? with pu238? with inverted > clamps ? with DC ?) > > they launche the test, after few minustes, hours, days they make a cross > check, see something strange, re check, have an hypothesis, test its, > understand the trick, reproduce it... 3 weeks, they write a report... > Rossi moan, they don't hear him, and tell to the planet rossi is a > scammer... > > now what have happened ? in which world are we ? > > we are in the world where: > - the heat is big enough to justify the test continuation > - rossi reactor works for >4 month (or they would have used another of > their spare reactor) without breakdown (it can have faded however) > - the scientist are very skeptic in the positive meaning (they want more > evidences) > - they scientist make many cross check, including isotopic analysis... > (for proving nuclear nature or even for proposing a Nobel theory paper) > > Hey guys, imagine that those physicist prepare a paper for the Nobel... > > maybe you are right Kevin, scientist are using that time for their own > interest ... to make a Nobel paper. at least to save their butt from the SR > radio and S Coyaud rascals. > > > > 2014-06-21 17:51 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>: > >> Sorry to sound like that scratched record myself - as I see others have >> said >> the same thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Steven, >> >> >> >> Yes ... and there could be a third and more important inescapable >> conclusion. >> >> >> >> You do not delay a report for an isotopic analysis if there has been no >> excess heat ! You simply issue a negative report. >> >> >> >> IOW if the report was indeed delayed for this reason, it is a slam-dunk >> that >> they have seen excess heat. >> >> >> >> From: Orionworks - >> >> >> >> Jones sez: >> >> >> >> > ... sounding like a scratched vinyl record >> >> >> >> Perhaps so. However I'm inclined to speculate that two inescapable >> conclusions have been drawn: >> >> >> >> (1) Spurious anomalous heat continues to be recorded. >> >> (2) They can not accurately predict and/or control the generation of >> spurious anomalous heat. >> >> >> >> When it comes to conducting scientific investigations where highly >> controversial claims of anomalous heat have been alleged, precise AND >> PREDICTABLE calorimetric data must be recorded repeatedly. The >> unpredictability of the heat measurements - I could see how this is likely >> to drive a lot of researchers who have had had little or no exposure to >> the >> LENR field, up the wall. By nature most of these researchers are going to >> be >> pre-disposed to assume that a measurement mistake had been made. I suspect >> many are baffled that they have not found such a definitive mistake. It >> sticks in their craw. Combine this with the likely fact that the recorded >> data is often unpredictable. Such unpredictability is likely feed off of >> their suspicions that something is just not right here. It continues to >> breed a sense that a lack of proper scientific control is the most likely >> explanation. >> >> >> >> So... what do you do? Call in more troops and advisors. Prepare to conduct >> another "surge" test in a final attempt to root out what is assumed to be >> pesky insurgency of bad "elements" that they haven't been able to >> eliminate. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Steven Vincent Johnson >> >> svjart.orionworks.com >> >> zazzle.com/orionworks >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
