I think we should step back and ask ourselves (or Jack) what the goal of this
replication attempt really is.
Is it to fully test the energy balance. In which case, we need to measure
energy output via a calorimetry setup, which greatly complicates the setup and
introduces myriad of error possibilities.
Or is the goal simply to verify certain aspects of Mill's claims. If for
instance we simply want to verify Mill's input energy claim of 5J or his output
energy claims, then a simpler setup which is like the suncell would suffice.
Solar panels for output, an oscilloscope rigged like Bob suggested for input
power measurements. If COP is as large as 100, extreme precision is not needed
to establish OU operation - ala Mill's claim.
I say lets opt for the second goal.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Higgins
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
Eric,
I am an EE. I would try it myself, but I don't have a spot welder. DI water
is very high resistance - essentially an insulator. But it won't stay
non-conductive for long if you are welding in it. One of the electrodes is
likely ground. To boot, you are normally connecting the electrodes to
conductive sheet metal and no one is getting electrocuted. I would be more
concerned about the energetics. I would just start with snapping the electrodes
in a plastic bucket with DI water - or maybe distilled water to start. I would
put the electrode bars through holes in a sheet of plastic so water cannot
splash up into the welder. Doing this underwater I estimate to be a step
forward over what Mills did; and simpler. When testing with a fuel pellet, I
might encapsulate the prepared pellet in wax to isolate it - then crush through
the wax with the electrodes.
Of course, if someone is uncomfortable with doing this, they shouldn't try
it! Protect yourself!
Bob
On Aug 26, 2014 8:49 PM, "Eric Walker" <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
wrote:
If you embed the electrodes reasonably well into the water, you may be
able to avoid most of the error for the heat that goes into the electrodes.
Asking as someone who knows little about electronics, what are the hazards
of submerging the electrodes of a spot welder and then turning it on?
Eric
