Fran:

As is have posted many times, it is hard to tell what emerges from what.
What comes first the chicken of the egg.

Did you know that the Casmir force and zero point energy can be completely
controlled by polariton condensation.

*New regime in the Casimir force observed*

http://phys.org/news/2013-12-regime-casimir.html

and

*Dymamical Casimir emission from polariton condensates*

http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.1027

The Casmir effect can be eliminated or greatly amplified by polariton
condensation. This new understanding in among the new hot topics in cavity
physics.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Roarty, Francis X <
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote:

> In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:32:02 -0700:
> [snip] The usual "lame" rationalizations we have used is that the energy was
> >borrowed in advance to overcome the Coulomb barrier or shed in advance to
> >achieve the redundancy ...[/snip]
>
> IMHO the  lock step motion of gas atoms in a loaded lattice provide the
> "bank" that loans energy to the reaction. I see this as ZPE underpinning
> where the geometry organizes random motion even extending down into the
> smaller NAE region where the very local defects in the lattice oppose the
> quantum forces of cavity  geometry all occurring unbeknownst to the gas
> atom who always sees his local environment full of virtual particles
> unchanged and simply responds to HUP to derive his normal random motion
> much like local and global geometry establishes local and regional weather
> patterns.
>
> My point is that I agree it may not be fusion but disagree wrt there not
> being a source of energy to borrow.. the lock step motion of that many
> atoms represent a bank or a hammer and the closed cavity of the NAE is the
> loan seeking anvil.
>
> Fran
>
>
>

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