--- Matt Sealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > That, and also the fact that even if you name a file
> > > 
> > > "A file for Jamie"
> > > 
> > > Most Amiga apps wouldn't know whether it was a picture or a text file
> > > if it hit them on the head.
> > 
> > Not true actually!  Many Amiga apps don't look for the stupid PC .ext
> > convention.
> 
> Which is crap.
> 

Relying on a method that was most appropriate for the '80s microcomputer is
crap.  One expects something more sophisticated today.

> Open a DPaint file requester - or an ADpro one, or an ImageFX one, and
> lo and behold: they will display "A file for Jamie" whether they support
> it or not.
> 

Don has answered this sucinctly.

I prefer to see all the files in a dir and leave it to the file req to filter
if necessary.

A well organised storage medium should only have files of a suitable type
anyway.  Unless people like saving .wav in the image files drawer of a gfx
program etc.

> 
> > Just for a laugh, how about we start sending winPC users .mp3s and that
> > bloatcode that is .PDF as .html?! Jolly good fun on a rainy Sunday
> > afternoon methinks! ;)
> 
> That's not funny, though.
> 

If they're a windows user, I guess not! :)
 
> > > How do you tell if a file is an IFF file
> > > from inside a DPaint requester, with a name like that?
> > 
> > They're discussing the merits of the computer doing the donkey work of
> > checking a files type not the user! 
> 
> Dpaint doesn't check, though, does it? Think.
>

Probably not. I haven't used that in a looooooong time.  But they weren't
discussing a particular programs' faults.  Please re-read my, and their,
previous statements.

> > 
> > And windows is about 15-20 years old, used by like 99.9% (figures supplied
> > by Off-the-top-of-my-head-facts TM ;) of the desktop 'puter market and it
> > STILL doesn't bloody have it!!
> 
> It doesn't need it. If you give a file the right name,

Yeah, IF!  Just see some other post earlier in this thread IIRC to see the
problems that brings.

> you don't even need a computer to tell you what's in it.

Of course you do!  Unless you can read a hard disk with your own eyes! ;)
In which case, you've been using a computer for too long (or become one ;) and
you ought to take a break... ;)

> It's 100x faster to say "this file has an mp3 extension, 
> therefore there is a very good chance that it is in fact an
> mp3 file", 

Of course it's faster! Doesn't mean it's the best/most reliable way though.
There is also a very good chance that it isn't an .mp3 too.

> than to scan the first few kilobytes pattern matching it against a
> database of 100-200 descriptions of file formats.
> 

If the header structure is organised/designed effeciently, only a few bytes
need to be checked and there are faster, more effecient ways of achieving this
than pattern matching.

As I (and Don) said, it's a fundamentally flawed (not to mention basic) method.

> Even Deficons manages to mis-label a file sometimes. It's sometimes a lot
> easier, when you have 99.9% of the planet and 20 years of experience in use,
> to do the quick and semi-reliable assumption than to waste time getting it
> wrong - which is a support headache to say the least.
>

Hey nothing is 100% foolproof/reliable but I (and a lot of other users no
doubt) would rather have something more sophisticated than .ext matching.
 
> If you say so. Do you get off on being so narrow minded?
> 

Hmmmm.... that must be me and a whole bunch of other win/non-win users too
then.
 
> > 
> > Considering that it's supposed to have mem protection windows is one big
> > lock-up bug! ;)
> 
> Memory protection doesn't prevent crashes, it merely catches them.
> 

It should be called, memory minding then. ;)

> One day when you learn how computers work in the real world, maybe you'll
> be qualified enough to talk about them. Until then you seem to be little
> more than a BAF.
> 

Oh, and I suppose you do then?!  You, the one who thinks 80s filetype
recognition is acceptable today!  I don't think many frustrated win users would
agree with you there....

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