On Nov 19, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Till Westmann wrote: > Hi, > > I think that most of us agree that graduation to a TLP would be the right > path. > > From my point of view there are only 2 open questions right now: > 1) Should we aim to graduate "all the way" immediately or should we become a > pTLP?
All the way. > 2) Should we create a second incubator release before we attempt graduation > (there has been quite a bit of development on the master branch while we were > working on the release)? Second release could make sense, it may take some time to adjust infrastructure once you become a TLP (or pTLP) Final approval for TLP can happen only once a month at the board meeting. (a) finish the last release steps. (b) role another release. If not done by Dec. 4 then skip. (c) graduation votes (d) TLP in December. Regards, Dave > > Thanks, > Till > > On Nov 19, 2013, at 1:51 AM, Jochen Wiedmann <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> [Sorry for the truncated message from some minutes ago.. Was pressing >> "Send" accidentally. So to continue:] >> >> >> As a reminder: Publishing this release will be taken as a sign, that the >> project is ready for graduation. >> >> So, it seems about time to discuss our further intentions. Our options, as >> I see them, are: >> >> 1.) Graduate as a new TLP, as ant has already suggested. I would expect >> that the board would approve a corresponding request. (After minor >> discussions, perhaps.) >> 2.) Become a subproject of another TLP. Problem is, that there is no >> obvious choice, that would welcome VXQuery. For example, speaking as a >> member of Apache Commons, I'd personally reject VXQuery as not sufficiently >> generic. I'd expect at least applicability on DOM nodes, or something like >> that, with some examples demonstrating the use as part of the documentation. >> >> The main difference between these options: As a TLP, there's addidional >> work to do. With option 2, that would be done by the parent project. Mainly >> like it was, except that Incubator was the TLP so far. Additional jobs to >> do: >> >> - Elect a chair. (I'd suggest Till, as he did an excellent job so far in >> adapting to the Apache policies, acting as a release manager, and so on.) >> - Elect a PMC. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Jochen Wiedmann <[email protected] >>> wrote: >> >>> [Sorry for the truncated message from some minutes ago.. Was pressing >>> "Send" accidentally. So to continue:] >>> >>> >>> As a reminder: Publishing this release will be taken as a sign, that the >>> project is ready for graduation. >>> >>> So, it seems about time to discuss our further intentions. Our options, as >>> I see them, are: >>> >>> 1.) Graduate as a new TLP, as ant has already suggested. I would expect >>> that the board would approve a corresponding request. (After minor >>> discussions, perhaps.) >>> 2.) Become a subproject of another TLP. Problem is, that there is no >>> obvious choice, that would welcome VXQuery. For example, speaking as a >>> member of Apache Commons, I'd personally reject VXQuery as not sufficiently >>> generic. I'd expect at least applicability on DOM nodes, or something like >>> that, with some examples demonstrating the use as part of the documentation. >>> >>> The main difference between these options: As a TLP, there's addidional >>> work to do. With option 2, that would be done by the parent project. Mainly >>> like >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Jochen Wiedmann < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> As a reminder: Publishing this release will be taken as a sign, that the >>>> project is ready for graduation. >>>> >>>> So, it seems about time to discuss our further intentions. Our options, >>>> as I see them, are: >>>> >>>> 1.) Graduate as a new TLP, as ant has already suggested. I would expect >>>> that the board would approve a corresponding request. (After minor >>>> discussions, perhaps.) >>>> 2.) Become a subproject of another TLP. Problem is, that there is no >>>> obvious choice, that would welcome VXQuery. For example, speaking as a >>>> member of Apache >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> our release was finally approved by the IPMC: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201311.mbox/browser >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, we were not completely prepared for this event, as we are >>>>> still missing the distribution area to distribute the release artifacts. >>>>> I've filed a JIRA to create it >>>>> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6983 >>>>> >>>>> but since there are 110 other JIRAs in the state "Waiting for Infra", >>>>> there has been no activity so far. >>>>> >>>>> So maybe if we could all vote for the issue, it might catch Infra's >>>>> attention a little earlier :) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Till >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "That's what prayers are ... it's frightened people trying to make >>>> friends with the bully!" >>>> >>>> Terry Pratchett. The Last Hero >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "That's what prayers are ... it's frightened people trying to make friends >>> with the bully!" >>> >>> Terry Pratchett. The Last Hero >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "That's what prayers are ... it's frightened people trying to make friends >> with the bully!" >> >> Terry Pratchett. The Last Hero >
