Hi John

Glad you got it sorted.
Sorry didn't get to as had got held up with work for clients and actually
just got home now,..
Glad you got it done though. Always something interesting to find with
computers and internet.

Kind regards
Daniel


On 7/6/11 10:14 PM, "Winters John" <jcwint...@me.com> wrote:

> 
> Wow Neil,
> 
> I didn't know how easily that could be done. I had to read the raw source of
> your email to find the "internode" references in the header, but to a brief
> scan it looked really legitimate! Fascinating.
> 
> The set up was slightly different in Mail vs Enter-rage but I made the switch
> and managed to unsubscribe my old email address.
> 
> Now if I had tried to unsubscribe you (or anyone else) from the list there is
> the protection of a confirmation email to which you must respond that would
> alert you to any skulduggery.
> 
> I seem to recall that it is possible to use public key encryption or something
> similar to make it harder for your emails to be spoofed. Is there anything
> like this that can be integrated into and used with Mail on the Mac?
> 
> Regards,
> John
> 
> On 06/06/2011, at 3:41 PM, John Winters wrote:
> 
>> ***NOTE This email was sent by Neil Houghton NOT John Winters***
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The thing about unsubscribing from lists is that the list has to think that
>> the email has come from the email address that you are trying to
>> unsubscribe.
>> 
>> The other thing about this is that it really doesn't matter if that email
>> address is still working or not -you can still send an email that uses the
>> old email address as the "from" address - this is a typical trick used by
>> spammers and is the reason why you sometimes get complaints from people that
>> you have sent spam or viruses or whatever - you know you didn't do this but
>> it probably got sent with your address in the "from" field after somebody
>> harvested your address - Peter H touched on this in his answer to the "email
>> hacked?" post.
>> 
>> Now doing this to someone elses email address is, of course despicable and
>> reprehensible - however doing it with your own obsolete email address, to
>> unsubscribe it from a mailing list is quite easy and IMHO quite right &
>> proper!
>> 
>> To show how you would do this, I have sent this email using YOUR email
>> address - I hope you are OK with this, it was just done to show you how to
>> achieve your goal.
>> 
>> The following steps are in Entourage (my email client) - but the basic
>> premise is the same whatever email client you use:
>> 
>> Create a new account (Tools/Accounts, select mail, hit new)
>> Select type POP 7 hit OK
>> Give the account a name - I used john test
>> Put your old email in the email address (I used the address from your post)
>> Under Receiving Mail - leave everything blank (you are not trying to receive
>> email with this temporary account)
>> Under "Sending Mail" - put in your normal STMP server (in my case
>> mail.internode.on.net)
>> Hit OK
>> I get a message asking me to fill in the receiving mail details and warning
>> that if I just hit OK I will only be able to send (not receive) emails -
>> which is what I want - so, hit OK.
>> 
>> The new account has been created.
>> 
>> I write this email and select the new account in the "from" dropdown box.
>> 
>> I send the email. I will now immediately delete this test account - so I
>> cannot accidently send any other emails purporting to be from your account.
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 6/6/11 12:03 PM, Winters John at jcwint...@me.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually,
>>> 
>>> I have exactly this issue, and I've been receiving duplicate emails for some
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> I had originally subscribed to WAMUG using my ~@mac.com address, then years
>>> later when Apple forced people (subscribers actually) to use the ~@me.com
>>> for
>>> outgoing mail, I changed my "Mail" settings and found that although I could
>>> still receive WAMUG posts on my ~@mac.com address, I could not send to the
>>> list because the ~@me.com emails all bounced as an "unsubscribed" address.
>>> When I later re-subscribed with the ~@me.com I started getting duplicates of
>>> everything, but I could at least post again!
>>> 
>>> If I use the unsubscribe link, from my current email settings, I'll
>>> unsubscribe the NEW listing, and, like Stephen, I can't see a way to use the
>>> OLD email address as it no longer works. I checked the WAMUG website and did
>>> send an email to "wamug-own...@wamug.org.au" (which seems to have
>>> disappeared
>>> from the website now) but didn't hear anything, so decided to live with the
>>> duplicate posts.
>>> 
>>> So Daniel. If you're the man with the subscribers list, could I ask that you
>>> scroll through that long list again and delete <jcwint...@mac.com>, please?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On 04/06/2011, at 1:50 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you very much Daniel
>>>> I was concerned that unsubscribing would simply unsubscribe my new email
>>>> address.
>>>> There did not seem to be an option to insert my old email address.
>>>> Once again thank you !
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/06/2011, at 11:35 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Stephen
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can still send an email from your "old " email address. You just
>>>>> change
>>>>> the details in your account as showing the "From" Address.
>>>>> However, on this instance I've gone and removed it manually. We prefer
>>>>> members to do it, rather then spending 5 minutes scrolling through a long
>>>>> list trying to find it :o) lol
>>>>> 
>>>>> But your old address has now been removed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/6/11 9:09 AM, "Stephen Chape" <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Daniel
>>>>>> Problem is that my old address is now "kaput" "nix" "gone"  !!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 03/06/2011, at 11:39 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just need to send an email to the address at the bottom of the wamug
>>>>>>> mail
>>>>>>> header from your old address. That will unsubscribe it.
>>>>>>> Ie > Unsubscribe - <mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/6/11 11:28 PM, "Stephen Chape" <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi there folks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have just subscribed to mailing list using my new email address,
>>>>>>>> but I do not know how to unsubscribe the old one [ch...@westnet.com.au]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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