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On 07/06/2011, at 10:14 PM, Winters John <jcwint...@me.com> wrote:

> 
> Wow Neil,
> 
> I didn't know how easily that could be done. I had to read the raw source of 
> your email to find the "internode" references in the header, but to a brief 
> scan it looked really legitimate! Fascinating.
> 
> The set up was slightly different in Mail vs Enter-rage but I made the switch 
> and managed to unsubscribe my old email address.
> 
> Now if I had tried to unsubscribe you (or anyone else) from the list there is 
> the protection of a confirmation email to which you must respond that would 
> alert you to any skulduggery.
> 
> I seem to recall that it is possible to use public key encryption or 
> something similar to make it harder for your emails to be spoofed. Is there 
> anything like this that can be integrated into and used with Mail on the Mac?
> 
> Regards,
> John
> 
> On 06/06/2011, at 3:41 PM, John Winters wrote:
> 
>> ***NOTE This email was sent by Neil Houghton NOT John Winters***
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The thing about unsubscribing from lists is that the list has to think that
>> the email has come from the email address that you are trying to
>> unsubscribe.
>> 
>> The other thing about this is that it really doesn't matter if that email
>> address is still working or not -you can still send an email that uses the
>> old email address as the "from" address - this is a typical trick used by
>> spammers and is the reason why you sometimes get complaints from people that
>> you have sent spam or viruses or whatever - you know you didn't do this but
>> it probably got sent with your address in the "from" field after somebody
>> harvested your address - Peter H touched on this in his answer to the "email
>> hacked?" post.
>> 
>> Now doing this to someone elses email address is, of course despicable and
>> reprehensible - however doing it with your own obsolete email address, to
>> unsubscribe it from a mailing list is quite easy and IMHO quite right &
>> proper!
>> 
>> To show how you would do this, I have sent this email using YOUR email
>> address - I hope you are OK with this, it was just done to show you how to
>> achieve your goal.
>> 
>> The following steps are in Entourage (my email client) - but the basic
>> premise is the same whatever email client you use:
>> 
>> Create a new account (Tools/Accounts, select mail, hit new)
>> Select type POP 7 hit OK
>> Give the account a name - I used john test
>> Put your old email in the email address (I used the address from your post)
>> Under Receiving Mail - leave everything blank (you are not trying to receive
>> email with this temporary account)
>> Under "Sending Mail" - put in your normal STMP server (in my case
>> mail.internode.on.net)
>> Hit OK
>> I get a message asking me to fill in the receiving mail details and warning
>> that if I just hit OK I will only be able to send (not receive) emails -
>> which is what I want - so, hit OK.
>> 
>> The new account has been created.
>> 
>> I write this email and select the new account in the "from" dropdown box.
>> 
>> I send the email. I will now immediately delete this test account - so I
>> cannot accidently send any other emails purporting to be from your account.
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 6/6/11 12:03 PM, Winters John at jcwint...@me.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually,
>>> 
>>> I have exactly this issue, and I've been receiving duplicate emails for some
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> I had originally subscribed to WAMUG using my ~@mac.com address, then years
>>> later when Apple forced people (subscribers actually) to use the ~@me.com 
>>> for
>>> outgoing mail, I changed my "Mail" settings and found that although I could
>>> still receive WAMUG posts on my ~@mac.com address, I could not send to the
>>> list because the ~@me.com emails all bounced as an "unsubscribed" address.
>>> When I later re-subscribed with the ~@me.com I started getting duplicates of
>>> everything, but I could at least post again!
>>> 
>>> If I use the unsubscribe link, from my current email settings, I'll
>>> unsubscribe the NEW listing, and, like Stephen, I can't see a way to use the
>>> OLD email address as it no longer works. I checked the WAMUG website and did
>>> send an email to "wamug-own...@wamug.org.au" (which seems to have 
>>> disappeared
>>> from the website now) but didn't hear anything, so decided to live with the
>>> duplicate posts.
>>> 
>>> So Daniel. If you're the man with the subscribers list, could I ask that you
>>> scroll through that long list again and delete <jcwint...@mac.com>, please?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On 04/06/2011, at 1:50 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you very much Daniel
>>>> I was concerned that unsubscribing would simply unsubscribe my new email
>>>> address.
>>>> There did not seem to be an option to insert my old email address.
>>>> Once again thank you !
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/06/2011, at 11:35 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Stephen
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can still send an email from your "old " email address. You just 
>>>>> change
>>>>> the details in your account as showing the "From" Address.
>>>>> However, on this instance I've gone and removed it manually. We prefer
>>>>> members to do it, rather then spending 5 minutes scrolling through a long
>>>>> list trying to find it :o) lol
>>>>> 
>>>>> But your old address has now been removed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/6/11 9:09 AM, "Stephen Chape" <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Daniel
>>>>>> Problem is that my old address is now "kaput" "nix" "gone"  !!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 03/06/2011, at 11:39 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just need to send an email to the address at the bottom of the wamug 
>>>>>>> mail
>>>>>>> header from your old address. That will unsubscribe it.
>>>>>>> Ie > Unsubscribe - <mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/6/11 11:28 PM, "Stephen Chape" <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi there folks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have just subscribed to mailing list using my new email address,
>>>>>>>> but I do not know how to unsubscribe the old one [ch...@westnet.com.au]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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