Hi Neil,

Both forms of the book come up beautifully on the iPad; the online version in 
Safari and the downloaded PDF in iBooks. In portrait orientation they look 
strikingly clear and crisp. There was a bit of a delay when I scrolled forward 
many pages at a time as the smaller processor of the iPad raced to keep up, but 
after a delay of about 10 seconds the pages displayed as expected. Jumping to a 
random location in the book also incurred a 10 second or so delay but turning 
the pages at reading speed was not a problem.

The page numbering was the non-customised version -- that is to say page 6 of 
the text was page 12 in the thumbnails. Page 96 was still blurry.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 01/01/2012, at 19:42 , Neil Houghton wrote:

> Yes, The folder of JP2 files contains 136 images, of which 130 end up in the
> pdf - so around 29 MB of the 30.2 MB total are compressed down to 4.2 MB
> whilst keeping very good image quality - so the compression is VERY good.
> 
> I can accept that Preview may need to uncompress the files to view them but
> not only does it fail to recompress them, it actually expands them to 610 MB
> - which seems ridiculous.
> 
> As I said in a previous post:
>> When I look at the properties of the pdf it says:
>> PDF Producer: Recoded by LuraDocument PDF v2.28 - so this might be the
>> program that did the page number magic ;o)
> 
> I did a bit of looking around and it seems that it is the LuraDocument
> program that does the compression:
> <http://www.luratech.com/en/home/products/software-and-solutions-for-documen
> t-processing/document-and-data-conversion-software/luradocument-pdf-compress
> or.html>
> 
> Some other online discussions suggest that the iPad may have trouble with
> these highly compressed pdfs - I don't have an iPad yet - I think you do
> Carlo? If so could you try viewing the original pdf and seeing if the iPad
> can cope with it?
> 
> The direct link to the pdf is
> <http://www.archive.org/download/parishregister00brad/parishregister00brad.p
> df>
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> on 1/1/12 6:01 PM, cm at cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> It is interesting that the original JPEG files are actually bigger than the
>> PDF. They must be using some type of compression. Perhaps Preview 
>> uncompressed
>> the images and on saving failed to compress them again.
>> 
>> Just idle speculation at this point. :-)
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> On 01/01/2012, at 17:49 , Neil Houghton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> Yes, I'm not sure what is happening. It isn't the page swapping because the
>>> test I did before replying to Carlo was just opening the file in Preview and
>>> then re-saving - without any page swapping.
>>> 
>>> The original pdf creation was obviously very good - you can actually look at
>>> the original scanned jp2 files and they are around 70MB worth - before
>>> cropping etc - the cropped and straightened JP2s are 30MB worth and they
>>> have compiled them into a 4.2MB pdf - with very good image quality.
>>> 
>>> However the 610.4 MB file that Preview produces does seem excessive!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> -- 
>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> on 1/1/12 5:18 PM, Mike Fuller at blis...@tpg.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8.
>>>> 
>>>> I was intrigued by your file sizes Neil so I tried saving a PDF book (52 
>>>> pp)
>>>> from Preview.
>>>> 
>>>> Original size - 5.1MB - quality good
>>>> Saved size - 4.9MB using no quartz filter - quality equally good
>>>> Saved size - 1.9MB using reduce file size in quartz filter - quality
>>>> relatively poor.
>>>> 
>>>> Another scanned magazine (192 pp)
>>>> 
>>>> Original size 83.3MB - quality good
>>>> Saved size - 83.3MB using no quartz filter - same quality
>>>> Saved size - 10.1MB using reduce file size - quality very poor
>>>> 
>>>> So what was happening with your file sizes? (which I realise is what you
>>>> were
>>>> asking originally). I haven't tried swapping pages between copies yet -
>>>> maybe
>>>> later tonight and I'll let you know the results. I probably won't explore
>>>> the
>>>> numbering dilemma at this stage.
>>>> 
>>>> Curiouser and curiouser
>>>> 
>>>> Mike Fuller
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 01/01/2012, at 4:03 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> A further update - even though the file size has doubled - applying this
>>>>> filter does significantly reduce the image quality.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I may end up just keeping both copies of the book - it feels "wrong" but I
>>>>> do get all pages in maximum image quality for less than 9MB in total ;o(
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Neil
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>>>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> on 1/1/12 2:05 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Carlo,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's a good tip, thanks - I DID know about this but didn't actually
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> of it! - and I can't even blame the bubbles, they came later ;o)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a simpler test/comparison of this, I tried two things:
>>>>>> 1. I opened the 4.2MB file in Preview and then just did a "Save as" with
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> file changes or filters applied: Resulting file size was 610.4 MB.
>>>>>> 2. I then did the same with the "Reduce file size" filter applied:
>>>>>> Resulting
>>>>>> file size was 9.8MB - still well more than double the original file size 
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> but MUCH better than 610MB!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While it would be NICE to end up with the original 4.2 MB file size, I
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> certainly live with the 9.8MB one. Now, if I could just solve the
>>>>>> thumbnail
>>>>>> re-numbering issue...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Neil
>>> 
> 
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