Hi Ronni

This summarises the problem and action taken.     iTunes "should" have pointers 
to two movies in an external drive plus a full copy of a third movie in the 
iTunesU library.  These movies could not be located in the iTunes app because I 
tagged them incorrectly.  They display in the Apple TV menu so they are in 
iTunes somewhere.   I deleted some files/folders via Finder associated with the 
full copy movie but am concerned that iTunes still has links internally. 

I would like some guidance on proposed steps 5 to 7 below.

1. I deleted the three incorrectly tagged movies from the external Firewire 
drive.
2. I deleted the full movie copy and its parent folder "Unknown iTunes U" 
located under the normal "iTunes U" folder in iTunes Media.
3. I re-installed one movie and option-copied it to iTunes (and successfully 
re-tagged it as an iTunesU file).
4. iTunes app shut down and re-started.  Apple TV still lists the three 
(deleted) movies in its iTunesU menu. 
5. Tomorrow I propose re-installing two iTunes database files from Time Machine 
on the premise that link data to external files has to be stored somewhere.  
Files are "iTunes Library.itl" and "iTunes Library Extras.itdb".     The time 
shown in the date-modified field corresponds to the time I copied the movies.
6.  A third iTunes database file "iTunes Music Library.xml" does not seem to 
exist in Time Machine.  The time shown in the date-modified field corresponds 
to the time I copied the movies.   Absence in T.M. is a worry!
7.  I have closed and restarted the iTunes app during the above steps but have 
not done done a full power shut down of the iMac or Apple TV.  Will do this 
before trying the (partial) T.M. restore.   Way too late to do it tonight.

Cheers
Alan



On 25/04/2012, at 4:47 PM, Alan Smith wrote:

Hi Ronni

As explained, I keep special movies in the iTunesU category.  This is a 
parallel level to "Movies" (or "TV Shows") categories.  It works well- when 
properly tagged.    The problem is how to REMOVE them from the unnamed iTunesU 
collection as they don't display in iTunes or Finder.  I understand the 
structure and tagging of the Movie and TV categories.   Just to terrify you a 
little - I also have one group of movies I keep in the Podcast category, but 
nothing to do with the current problem!

Cheers
Alan


On 25/04/2012, at 4:31 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

Hi Alan,

Under Library in iTunes, the movies should show in “Movies” not iTunesU 
shouldn’t they?
Perhaps that is why you are receiving “unknown iTunesU structure” in iTunes.

All my iMovie or iPhoto slideshow movies & other movies, show in Movies in 
iTunes and in Finder are located:
/Users/ronni/Music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Movies/xxxxx 

Movies generally just need the Title tag, and TV shows need Show, Season 
Number, and Episode Number tags to keep them grouped together.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.3 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 25/04/2012, at 3:02 PM, Alan Smith wrote:

> Using iMac with OS X 10.6.8 and iTunes 10.6.1.
> 
> I made a mistake while editing tags on 3 movies and now they are invisible in 
> iTunes to both eyeballing and spotlight searching.
> 
> Movies were created in iMovie and exported to an external Firewire drive.  I 
> normally Option-Copy links into iTunes so movies can be viewed on Apple TV 
> without creating a physical copy of the movie.   Copied movies appear by 
> default in the Films library of iTunes.  For this type of movie I change tags 
> and classify the Media Kind  as iTunesU.   My mistake was to leave the Album 
> tag blank, which I think is used to name the Collection field within iTunesU. 
>   
> 
> iTunes tag data seems to have been written back to the real file on the 
> Firewire drive.  I can't re-do the links as iTunes ignores the file as if it 
> already exists.   No file path data shows in Finder for these linked movies.  
> I copied a physical file into iTunes, but this is invisible too.   However 
> the physical file reveals a path in Finder ... ~/music /itunes /itunes media 
> /itunesU /unknown iTunesU /filename.   This Unknown iTunesU folder does not 
> display as an iTuneU collection header.
> 
> Movies can be seen in Apple TV.  (!)  This just shows the text "3 episodes" 
> without a Collection title on a separate line to other iTunesU Collections.  
> This infers I have an un-named Collection in iTunesU, but - - -.
> 
> How can I access the movies in iTunes to fix the tags?   How can I delete the 
> invisible Unknown iTunesU structure in iTunes?  I have older backups of the 
> movies (with no iTunes tags) so they could replace the Firewire drive copies 
> if necessary. 
> 
> Yes, another example of rushing a 5 minute task and spending hours to repair 
> the damage.
> 
> Regards, Alan
> 
> Alan Smith
> iMac 21.5" Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 4M - OSX 10.6.8
> iPad2; ATV2
> 

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